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Old 02-23-2010, 03:02 PM
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OK Im back! Just realized I have a right to be here as though I may be Hitting, I have a Swingers Startdown. Drag Loading. CAnt touch me now! Which brings me to my question;

Assuming you dont Drive Load from Top, doesnt everyone Drag Load in Stratdown? A Hitters delayed Release of #1 Angle meaning Drag Loading? Whether or not he goes full Swingers Monty and loads the #3 pp in the knuckle a function of his Right Elbow position, whether he stops at Top or goes to End etc.

Personally, I have a Standard Shoulder Turn, On Plane going Down, Load the #3 at the knuckle, Drag Loading, string pulling, followed by a Shoulder Throw and then a Right Arm Throw, or sometimes a Left Wrist Throw but not often. Which leads me to my next question:

To actually have the Right Shoulder moving On Plane (TSP) I wondering if it requires a Shoulder Throw? The mere Turning of the HIps to Actuate the Right Shoulder seems to send the Right Shoulder out a little high for me anyways. What do you guys think? Any TSP, Shoulder Throwers out there? I know the Shoulder Throw is really later sequentially than the On Plane Shoulder Turn but this is what seems to make it work for me. Perhaps its the intention of using a Shoulder Throw that helps get the Right Shoulder down that low. Maybe its just me?

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Old 02-23-2010, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
OK Im back! Just realized I have a right to be here as though I may be Hitting, I have a Swingers Startdown. Drag Loading. CAnt touch me now! Which brings me to my question;

Assuming you dont Drive Load from Top, doesnt everyone Drag Load in Stratdown? A Hitters delayed Release of #1 Angle meaning Drag Loading? Whether or not he goes full Swingers Monty and loads the #3 pp in the knuckle a function of his Right Elbow position, whether he stops at Top or goes to End etc.

Personally, I have a Standard Shoulder Turn, On Plane going Down, Load the #3 at the knuckle, Drag Loading, string pulling, followed by a Shoulder Throw and then a Right Arm Throw, or sometimes a Left Wrist Throw but not often. Which leads me to my next question:

To actually have the Right Shoulder moving On Plane (TSP) I wondering if it requires a Shoulder Throw? The mere Turning of the HIps to Actuate the Right Shoulder seems to send the Right Shoulder out a little high for me anyways. What do you guys think? Any TSP, Shoulder Throwers out there? I know the Shoulder Throw is really later sequentially than the On Plane Shoulder Turn but this is what seems to make it work for me. Perhaps its the intention of using a Shoulder Throw that helps get the Right Shoulder down that low. Maybe its just me?


To answer your first question, no. Hitter's are loading the side of the shaft, the right elbow, and swinger's are loading the top of the shaft, the left wrist.

At start down, that difference in loading should actually feel quite different. A swinger is very likely to feel a strong pull through the left arm, which is actually the pivot pulling PP#2.

Imagine a tailor fitting you for a jacket and measuring your arm. That is the line a swinger will feel pull on at start down. The left hand karate chop.

The hitter will feel the right arm, the triceps.

The core difference is rotation, the loading for swinger's being 90 degrees different than the loading for hitter's.


As far as the right shoulder, it depends on what plane you are using. I would say you could have a steeper plane shoulder throw, but I wouldn't recommend it. It would be less efficient.
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Old 02-23-2010, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by EdZ View Post
To answer your first question, no. Hitter's are loading the side of the shaft, the right elbow, and swinger's are loading the top of the shaft, the left wrist.

At start down, that difference in loading should actually feel quite different. A swinger is very likely to feel a strong pull through the left arm, which is actually the pivot pulling PP#2.

Imagine a tailor fitting you for a jacket and measuring your arm. That is the line a swinger will feel pull on at start down. The left hand karate chop.

The hitter will feel the right arm, the triceps.

The core difference is rotation, the loading for swinger's being 90 degrees different than the loading for hitter's.

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Thanks EdZ

Thats the classic Swinger vs 3 Barrel Hitter take for sure but what about the 4 Barrel guys? Same deal?
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