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Old 08-03-2009, 12:57 AM
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I do know that Mr. Kelley had three different putters to work with different stroke types. Specifically, the reverse lofted putter is only needed for a "true swinging" putting motion in that the face is only square at low point (at least for a straight faced putter) and that the reverse loft is therefore needed if you wanted to hit the ball above the equator at low point - in order to give the ball overspin and start it rolling right away. Since he didn't tend to putt using a true swinging procedure- I'd guess that he wasn't using a reverse loft putter for that round of golf.


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I'd have thought it would work for a linear clubhead path too, like a top spin pool cue shot. I dunno. Why not? Although my friend does have a very flat shoulder turn powered putting stroke and a horizontal type hinge. And a chuckle to himself that drives his playing partners crazy.

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Old 08-03-2009, 06:25 PM
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Thanks Mike

I'd have thought it would work for a linear clubhead path too, like a top spin pool cue shot. I dunno. Why not? Although my friend does have a very flat shoulder turn powered putting stroke and a horizontal type hinge. And a chuckle to himself that drives his playing partners crazy.

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If you really want an answer to "Why not?" let me know. Wasn't sure you really wanted an answer to your question.

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Old 08-03-2009, 08:48 PM
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P.S. Drew, I lit it up at Falmouth Country Club today
What were you smokin'? Some of that Bucket hand-wrap "secret herbs and spices"?
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Old 08-03-2009, 08:51 PM
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If you really want an answer to "Why not?" let me know. Wasn't sure you really wanted an answer to your question.

P.S. Drew, I lit it up at Falmouth Country Club today

I expect you to go everytime you tee it up. Nice course. Haven't been there in awhile. Hopefully you took home some "pocket change".
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Old 08-05-2009, 12:00 AM
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I expect you to go everytime you tee it up. Nice course. Haven't been there in awhile. Hopefully you took home some "pocket change".
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P.S. Drew, I lit it up at Falmouth Country Club today
Falmouth in Maine or Mass.?
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Old 08-04-2009, 06:24 PM
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Falmouth in Maine or Mass.?
Good point Michael! Forgot about Falmouth, Maine. Once you cross the border from Massachusetts into New Hampshire, you have hit the point of no return..."Big Foot" Territory.
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Falmouth in Maine or Mass.?
Maine- nice course- Private though - so you'll never see Bucket there- they don't let 72 Vega's through the front gate.
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:45 PM
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If you really want an answer to "Why not?" let me know. Wasn't sure you really wanted an answer to your question.

P.S. Drew, I lit it up at Falmouth Country Club today

No Im interested and it is on Topic for a change, which would be kind of new for you.......talk about biting the hand that is about to feed you.........sorry Mike.

So negative loft is only usable for a pure swing procedure? Can you start by describing a true swing for putting.

Thanks for this.

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No Im interested and it is on Topic for a change, which would be kind of new for you.......talk about biting the hand that is about to feed you.........sorry Mike.

So negative loft is only usable for a pure swing procedure?
No that's not correct. You could use a negative loft putter for any procedure if you wanted. I said IF you used a TRUE swinging procedure - in order to effectively strike the putt at the target and start it rolling with overspin - you'd need a reverse lofted putter. Of course, when Mr. Kelley would say something like that he was assuming that you didn't have any hookface built into the golf club- putter, iron, etc. Anything that makes the sweetspot (longitudinal center of gravity at the point it passes through the clubhead) move back - away from the target(from the viewpoint of a helicopter)- putting the center of gravity behind the shaft, creates a situation where the true swinger- putter, iron, driver, doesn't matter- would have a hookface clubface and therefore wouldn't have the clubface facing the target at lowpoint. Because the true swinger allows the automatic alignment of the sweetspot with the pulling force, which dictates the clubface alignment depending on the amount of hookface "built" into the club.

Can you start by describing a true swing for putting.
I need to make a Wal-Mart run before I make my trip to North Carolina- duct tape, rope, eight car batteries - I'll post to this when I get back later tonight.

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