Double D you are good. Birds eye vs straight on, the laws of motion not being unique to golf but universal.
But im still curious about Drewits comment about intent. Golfs false logic problem or whatever. Dont hit up? Steering a straight path? Here in lies the solution to golfs cause and effect puzzle.
All of this no doubt effects hand path to my mind. (Back on topic) Intent influencing hand path. The hands direct but only as the brains outpost.
Somewhat related to hand path is the notion that the right palm will not ride the inclined plane in release if not for the position of the right elbow. Pitch elbow say. Im also wondering if the Golden Spiral would be wider and less Golden if the accumulators released earlier.
So hand path isnt just a hand thing in and of itself. The hands, assuming they need a spiral path, need to command other components to comply. Hand path being somewhat resultant. Assuming a straight left arm if you want the spiral to tighten near impact, the left shoulder must move up. Homer said that all left shoulder movements should really be the result of right shoulder movement..............which means the right shoulder needs to drive down plane in release. You know where Im going. Put me in the all roads lead back to Homer camp if you must.
But the Golden Spiral I find fascinating having seen it at work for about twenty years now. There is something to it.
All of this no doubt effects hand path to my mind. (Back on topic) Intent influencing hand path. The hands direct but only as the brains outpost.
Somewhat related to hand path is the notion that the right palm will not ride the inclined plane in release if not for the position of the right elbow. Pitch elbow say. Im also wondering if the Golden Spiral would be wider and less Golden if the accumulators released earlier.
So hand path isnt just a hand thing in and of itself. The hands, assuming they need a spiral path, need to command other components to comply. Hand path being somewhat resultant. Assuming a straight left arm if you want the spiral to tighten near impact, the left shoulder must move up. Homer said that all left shoulder movements should really be the result of right shoulder movement..............which means the right shoulder needs to drive down plane in release. You know where Im going. Put me in the all roads lead back to Homer camp if you must.
But the Golden Spiral I find fascinating having seen it at work for about twenty years now. There is something to it.
Consider Jason Z (Fake). 340 yard Drive. Hand Path. What makes the Hands Travel Down that Path? Zone 1 and Zone 2.
JZ hits the Ball far. Is the Hands path causing a problem with his distance. NO WAY.
Interesting plotting there D. But can it be laid over the Golden Spiral graph? Im not sure if they are apples to apples. Not sure how they measure or designate their center. Maybe. But your point is a good one regardless. From many zones, one hand path.
Im also wondering about plane shifts. Take the Golden Spiral and look at it from a down the line view say. Would the spiral be seen to travel a flatter plane angles as it gets closer to impact? Like a funnel cloud or water going down a drain. So the hand path would be approaching the center (what ever that is) and flattening out at the same time to a degree consistent with the plane angle or shift. Elbow plane for some types. Moe wouldnt have much of a shift though. The more the shift the more conical the spiral.
PS dont think that is Jason Zubak. But who ever it is he is LONG. Why do you say the TSP will steepen the hand path? Do you assume axis tilt?
Im also wondering about plane shifts. Take the Golden Spiral and look at it from a down the line view say. Would the spiral be seen to travel a flatter plane angles as it gets closer to impact? Like a funnel cloud or water going down a drain. So the hand path would be approaching the center (what ever that is) and flattening out at the same time to a degree consistent with the plane angle or shift. Elbow plane for some types. Moe wouldnt have much of a shift though. The more the shift the more conical the spiral.
PS dont think that is Jason Zubak. But who ever it is he is LONG.
??? the Video says Jason Zuback. I don't know. He doesn't look like JZ. BUT, the next video, Jason ZUBACK "Fastest BAllS on Earth" is Jason Zuback. I've outlined his Hand path.
One thing that almost all of the world long drive hitters have in common is NO PLANE SHIFT on the Downstroke.
Interesting plotting there D. But can it be laid over the Golden Spiral graph? Im not sure if they are apples to apples. Not sure how they measure or designate their center. Maybe. But your point is a good one regardless. From many zones, one hand path.
Im also wondering about plane shifts. Take the Golden Spiral and look at it from a down the line view say. Would the spiral be seen to travel a flatter plane angles as it gets closer to impact? Like a funnel cloud or water going down a drain. So the hand path would be approaching the center (what ever that is) and flattening out at the same time to a degree consistent with the plane angle or shift. Elbow plane for some types. Moe wouldnt have much of a shift though. The more the shift the more conical the spiral.
PS dont think that is Jason Zubak. But who ever it is he is LONG. Why do you say the TSP will steepen the hand path? Do you assume axis tilt?
Sure man . . . . if the TSP is a steeper plane stands to reason the hand path would be steeper no? So this is my submission . . . . you check most pros . . . the get on the elbow plane eventually . . . . question is why? Does physics have an answer?
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If you cannot take the shoulder down the clubshaft plane, you must take along some other path and add compensations - now, instead of one motion to remember, you wind up with at least two!
Sure man . . . . if the TSP is a steeper plane stands to reason the hand path would be steeper no? So this is my submission . . . . you check most pros . . . the get on the elbow plane eventually . . . . question is why? Does physics have an answer?
The Right Elbow travels Down, Out and Forward.
An attempted Straight Line Delivery Path allows the Right Elbow to Clear the Right Hip, which is the Right Elbow Passing-by the Right Hip on its way to its Release Location (before the Shoulder are Square to the Baseline of the Inclined Plane). Only an On-Plane Downstroke Right Shoulder can Drive the Right Elbow past the Hip Front to a TSP Location for Release and Only if using a Rigid Power Package. Go to the Top of the Swing and aim the #3 Pressure Point at the Ball (with a fixed right elbow) and don't allow the pivot to disturb that alignment. Actually, the Right Hip Stays (Back) out of the Way of the Driving Right Forearm (Rigid Power Package). If you allow the Hips to move toward the Plane Line (Standing up) getting out of Posture, then typically a "Blocked" shot occurs.
Otherwise the Right Elbow will be Driven to in-front of the Right Hip (elbow plane - not clearing the Right Hip) for Release, because a pitched Elbow cannot travel any farther Forward On-Plane. This is normal for anyone who straightens the Right Elbow during the downswing before Release, because doing so stops the Right Elbow from being Driven farther Forward. It's a simple procedure. Go to the Top of the Swing and Rotate toward Impact and the Elbow will get stuck in-front of the Right Hip (Elbow Plane).
Use this simple test to see how far the Right Elbow can travel when the Right Hip Doesn't interfere. Address the Ball with your right foot about 15 inches directly behind your left foot. Using Short pitches, notice how far the right elbow will travel before Impact.
When the Left Arm, at the Top of the Swing, is Closer than about 45 degrees to the Chest, you'll probably end up on the Elbow Plane anyway.
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