Interesting plotting there D. But can it be laid over the Golden Spiral graph? Im not sure if they are apples to apples. Not sure how they measure or designate their center. Maybe. But your point is a good one regardless. From many zones, one hand path.
Im also wondering about plane shifts. Take the Golden Spiral and look at it from a down the line view say. Would the spiral be seen to travel a flatter plane angles as it gets closer to impact? Like a funnel cloud or water going down a drain. So the hand path would be approaching the center (what ever that is) and flattening out at the same time to a degree consistent with the plane angle or shift. Elbow plane for some types. Moe wouldnt have much of a shift though. The more the shift the more conical the spiral.
PS dont think that is Jason Zubak. But who ever it is he is LONG. Why do you say the TSP will steepen the hand path? Do you assume axis tilt?
Sure man . . . . if the TSP is a steeper plane stands to reason the hand path would be steeper no? So this is my submission . . . . you check most pros . . . the get on the elbow plane eventually . . . . question is why? Does physics have an answer?
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If you cannot take the shoulder down the clubshaft plane, you must take along some other path and add compensations - now, instead of one motion to remember, you wind up with at least two!
Sure man . . . . if the TSP is a steeper plane stands to reason the hand path would be steeper no? So this is my submission . . . . you check most pros . . . the get on the elbow plane eventually . . . . question is why? Does physics have an answer?
The Right Elbow travels Down, Out and Forward.
An attempted Straight Line Delivery Path allows the Right Elbow to Clear the Right Hip, which is the Right Elbow Passing-by the Right Hip on its way to its Release Location (before the Shoulder are Square to the Baseline of the Inclined Plane). Only an On-Plane Downstroke Right Shoulder can Drive the Right Elbow past the Hip Front to a TSP Location for Release and Only if using a Rigid Power Package. Go to the Top of the Swing and aim the #3 Pressure Point at the Ball (with a fixed right elbow) and don't allow the pivot to disturb that alignment. Actually, the Right Hip Stays (Back) out of the Way of the Driving Right Forearm (Rigid Power Package). If you allow the Hips to move toward the Plane Line (Standing up) getting out of Posture, then typically a "Blocked" shot occurs.
Otherwise the Right Elbow will be Driven to in-front of the Right Hip (elbow plane - not clearing the Right Hip) for Release, because a pitched Elbow cannot travel any farther Forward On-Plane. This is normal for anyone who straightens the Right Elbow during the downswing before Release, because doing so stops the Right Elbow from being Driven farther Forward. It's a simple procedure. Go to the Top of the Swing and Rotate toward Impact and the Elbow will get stuck in-front of the Right Hip (Elbow Plane).
Use this simple test to see how far the Right Elbow can travel when the Right Hip Doesn't interfere. Address the Ball with your right foot about 15 inches directly behind your left foot. Using Short pitches, notice how far the right elbow will travel before Impact.
When the Left Arm, at the Top of the Swing, is Closer than about 45 degrees to the Chest, you'll probably end up on the Elbow Plane anyway.
An attempted Straight Line Delivery Path allows the Right Elbow to Clear the Right Hip, which is the Right Elbow Passing-by the Right Hip on its way to its Release Location (before the Shoulder are Square to the Baseline of the Inclined Plane). Only an On-Plane Downstroke Right Shoulder can Drive the Right Elbow past the Hip Front to a TSP Location for Release and Only if using a Rigid Power Package. Go to the Top of the Swing and aim the #3 Pressure Point at the Ball (with a fixed right elbow) and don't allow the pivot to disturb that alignment. Actually, the Right Hip Stays (Back) out of the Way of the Driving Right Forearm (Rigid Power Package). If you allow the Hips to move toward the Plane Line (Standing up) getting out of Posture, then typically a "Blocked" shot occurs.
Otherwise the Right Elbow will be Driven to in-front of the Right Hip (elbow plane - not clearing the Right Hip) for Release, because a pitched Elbow cannot travel any farther Forward On-Plane. This is normal for anyone who straightens the Right Elbow during the downswing before Release, because doing so stops the Right Elbow from being Driven farther Forward. It's a simple procedure. Go to the Top of the Swing and Rotate toward Impact and the Elbow will get stuck in-front of the Right Hip (Elbow Plane).
Use this simple test to see how far the Right Elbow can travel when the Right Hip Doesn't interfere. Address the Ball with your right foot about 15 inches directly behind your left foot. Using Short pitches, notice how far the right elbow will travel before Impact.
When the Left Arm, at the Top of the Swing, is Closer than about 45 degrees to the Chest, you'll probably end up on the Elbow Plane anyway.
I sense this is written not from your usual think tank, table 4123 at Spiaggia but from the range. Are you actually hitting balls again?
Wait, "Driving Right Forearm" ? And Pitch elbow? You sir are experimenting again. Non automatic snappish release, sequenced but with a right arm throw? Why You're Mad Doctor, insane. You're messing with Homers code, you're creating a monster.
Then again maybe you dont mean "actively" driving right forearm.
P.S. One more reason for a blocked shot........an arched left wrist which moves low point. Something I learned from Tiger. Also until my last visit with Lynn I thought that a cleared right hip (for start up and start down) was accomplished with a single move, a turn of the right hip. Wrongo. Clear it going back with a turn, clear it in startdown with a delayed turn, slide. Two moves but One Love. Axis Tilt and lag loading etc.
I sense this is written not from your usual think tank, table 4123 at Spiaggia but from the range. Are you actually hitting balls again?
Wait, "Driving Right Forearm" ? And Pitch elbow? You sir are experimenting again. Non automatic snappish release, sequenced but with a right arm throw? Why You're Mad Doctor, insane. You're messing with Homers code, you're creating a monster.
Then again maybe you dont mean "actively" driving right forearm.
P.S. One more reason for a blocked shot........an arched left wrist which moves low point. Something I learned from Tiger. Also until my last visit with Lynn I thought that a cleared right hip (for start up and start down) was accomplished with a single move, a turn of the right hip. Wrongo. Clear it going back with a turn, clear it in startdown with a delayed turn, slide. Two moves but One Love. Axis Tilt and lag loading etc.
I've been going out once a week.
Driven Right Forearm.
I agree with the two-way Hip Clearing. That's what I mean. Lynn told you that? I'm glad to hear he got it right.
Sure man . . . . if the TSP is a steeper plane stands to reason the hand path would be steeper no? So this is my submission . . . . you check most pros . . . the get on the elbow plane eventually . . . . question is why? Does physics have an answer?
I see this, thanks, but from a DTL point of view only. Ill take some time to go over Daryls thoughts when Im next at the Lab. How the heck do you do smiley faces?
Physics or just structural engineering? The Right Arm Flying Wedge as structure. The arm not being on plane until the right elbow is etc. Have you ever tried that deal where you put your clubhead up against something solid and then just try to bend the shaft.........you very quickly adopt: perfect wedges, strong pp#3 and #1 and a left thumb running down the aft of the shaft and grip pressure and and....
Sorry NM, now that Mike O is back staying on topic is out of style again.
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