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Old 06-12-2009, 07:19 AM
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Alignment Golf has a language developed by Homer Kelley. One of his greatest of his many great contributions.

But we try to understand Alignments through Positions, because that's the only language we understand. Me too. But once I learned a few Alignments, then a few more and more, it's becoming clearer. Now I look for Alignments and I can tell if someone is out of position. What's next? I don't know.
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Old 06-12-2009, 07:40 AM
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:53 AM
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Alignment Golf has a language developed by Homer Kelley. One of his greatest of his many great contributions.

But we try to understand Alignments through Positions, because that's the only language we understand. Me too. But once I learned a few Alignments, then a few more and more, it's becoming clearer. Now I look for Alignments and I can tell if someone is out of position. What's next? I don't know.


If you have a Motion that is suitably Aligned (probably learned Mechanically if you studied around here) then its just you and your Computer. You are free and your game will truly take flight. The brain and the hands doing their thing like only they can do. There are guys that can juggle three balls and there are guys that can juggle a torch, a chainsaw and a sword. These latter types are not thinking about how to do it, they are merely doing it, sensing, feeling, directing.

When things are off for me and I get tired of tinkering around I just put my brain in my firm pressure points #'s 1,2 and swing the hands, my view of the ball and clubhead set to soft focus. Good things often result. I keep having to re learn this lesson. Swing the hands. Dont stare at the ball or watch the clubhead peripherally unless you want to Steer it. If you're going to look at anything make it a soft focus on the Aiming Point......the ball or for me ahead of the ball for a wedge and behind the ball for a driver.


I think whats next is a way to get mid handicappers to use their brain/hands to greater advantage. Earlier in their education than they might think possible. To turn off the "how to" barrier which they are often ready to do but dont. You can take a 10 handicap for instance, get him to hit shots and call out various shots when he's at the Top of his swing. "Fade" and he will fade it. "Draw" and he will draw it. It will take a few balls to turn their old ways off, but it does work. This drill doesnt give them enough time to employ their usual methods and reinforces their brain to hand relationship and ability.............which they normally over ride and ignore, unless they are really "on their game" so to speak. Their good games are not just mechanically better but often I think coincide with a brief relaxing of "how to" that allows the Computer to take control. I think that most golfers are actually better than they realize or actually show. Motion can bring all of this out. Strangely, the Melhournes and McDoanlds, the founding fathers of modern golf instruction knew this. More from the "nothings new anymore" file.

My personal contribution to this effort will be the invention of the invisible golf ball and clubhead. Only at separation will they appear to the naked eye. Steering will be removed from the game of golf. Also working on a golf ball that looks like a daisy. Im very close to finishing the cloaking device and things are very exciting right now. Havent seen my assistant Mike O. in few days but one of my golf balls keeps cracking the weirdest jokes about Bucket. Strange.

Oberding, why would you leave us behind? We're only dancing on this earth for a short time...............
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Old 07-30-2009, 12:15 PM
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There are two worlds in golf Geometry and Physics
Homer is Geometry and biomechanics is the physics which drive the geometry.

Biomecahnics they try to understand how the body moves in motion etc

There are two thing which motor the geometry.
Conservation of Momentum and Muscular loading, (loading and firing the muscles)
The Kinetic Link represent the body's ability to create conservation of momentum whereby summating speed from segment to segment such that the speed at the end of the speed of the chain or system is moving at a much larger speed then the first.

This starts from the ground up, feet hip segment,shoulder segment,arms segment and followed by the club.

Also the other factor is load and firing the muscles which drives each segment.

This is physics and the kinetic link applies in throwing or in tennis, baseball, softball any bat and ball sport.

It's physics you can't ignore the laws of physics. In order for the geometry to work you must have physics.

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Old 07-30-2009, 12:35 PM
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This starts from the ground up, feet hip segment,shoulder segment,arms segment and followed by the club.
This "starts from the ground up" mantra has always been a puzzle to me.

I have spent hours at address waiting for something to happen "from the ground up" and I would still be out there now but for the fact that I found out the club only moves once the hands that are holding it are put in motion!

I do appreciate that the ground has a part to play in the swing but surely this is only in relation to the opposing/resisting of the force applied in the down swing.
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Hey Burner, hope is all well.
It's newtons' law conservation of momentum. Pure physics.
Golf, tennis, throwing a ball you create ground force which creates
conservation of momentum.
Geometry (homer) you won't learn how to do this through geometry, you need to be taught human motion physic how to create ground forces, conservation of momentum, loading and firing of the muscles.
Geometry can't teach this.
Golf swing is 90% physics and 10% geometry, you poor guys put 90% into 10% of what creates a golf swing and this is why you all struggle with golf.

Where as you train your body how to create physics then you can apply geometry and have success.

Burner how can you grip the ground when you have never been taught how to? Geometry won't teach you how to.
Oneday I hope you meet someone show you physics and enjoy the feeling of gripping the ground just like hogan did.
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Old 07-31-2009, 06:58 AM
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It's newtons' law conservation of momentum. Pure physics.
Golf, tennis, throwing a ball you create ground force which creates
conservation of momentum.
Geometry (homer) you won't learn how to do this through geometry, you need to be taught human motion physic how to create ground forces, conservation of momentum, loading and firing of the muscles.
Geometry can't teach this.
Golf swing is 90% physics and 10% geometry, you poor guys put 90% into 10% of what creates a golf swing and this is why you all struggle with golf.

Where as you train your body how to create physics then you can apply geometry and have success.

Burner how can you grip the ground when you have never been taught how to? Geometry won't teach you how to.
Oneday I hope you meet someone show you physics and enjoy the feeling of gripping the ground just like hogan did.
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Geometry: The Clubhead Path and Clubface motion 3" before to 3" after the Ball is purely Geometry. Alignment Golf.
  1. Physics: I want to hit the ball with the Sweetspot.
  2. Geometry: I want the Clubhead to be Traveling a Path, Down, Out and Forward. I want the Clubface to be Closing and Hooding. (The Hooding Part is slight).
  3. Physics: This results in a perfect "Sustained - Line of Compression".

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Old 08-01-2009, 09:11 AM
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Daryl,
No those type of physics, human motion physics.
The club moves around the axis of the spine.
If you learn to apply the right movement patterns or Kinetic Link. The clube will move around the axis of the spine.
The only geometry needed is squaring the face up at impact and knowing how to align your body square to the target.

Golf is 90% physics ( Movement patterns)
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