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Old 07-31-2008, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
Stankbreath,

Pretty impressive typing for having all them boogers on your key board . . . Questions on your anal . . . ysis.

What's wrong with setting the face open? Why do you think the right wrist flattens? How can he come "over the top" if he doesn't have upper body rotation?

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Dear Ugly and Stupid,
Without going into the whole hinging, clubface motion thingy- let's just say that if you set the face more open than needed- then you have to have a closing offset- the easiest of those are 1) flip, 2) over the top, 3) don't transfer weight to the lead foot- all power reducing items. So if you want to hit it out of your shadow- I'm not a fan of open faces.

The right wrist in general could flatten for a million reasons- definitely the general "off plane" motion might require it to flatten to not miss the ball. But my first few checkpoints or faults to look for would be 1) the player needs to flatten it to close the face, 2) the player is not directing the lag i.e. sweetspot to the top of the ball - but they are improperly trying to direct it where the clubface actually contacts the ball.

The over the top comment was more subtle or theoretical. Plus I didn't say or mean to say that he comes over the top- I said or meant to say that he might be loading improperly- which normally would create an over the top motion- however he compensates by standing up, which with the vertical armswing in relation to the body makes it easy to have a lot of wrist cock- which all could be compensations for the improper loading of the club.

Now, it is natural handspeed that determines the amount of release delay someone might/should have- not vica versa - so again theorizing- let's assume his natural handspeed is faster than that deep release would allow- which would leave the face open at impact- now he compensates by slowing during release- and the right wrist flattens. You can start to see the complications of the puzzle and the difficulty in properly identifying the correct cause for the perceived problem. So Bucket - are you breathing in or out on the backswing and what are your ears doing?

P.S. Bucket- I just want to make sure that we are in agreement on our contract- I get $10 for every stroke that I can increase Toolish's handicap- so if I take him from a 5 handicap to a 20 - you're going to send me $150 cash- correct?
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