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Old 02-03-2008, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by cometgolfer View Post
D,

OK... I've been incubating for the last hour or so on this and I think I understand. The "sequenced release" in this case is really nothing but the un-cocking of the FLW as 10-18-C is a left wristcocking only. Any HH is the result of the pivot and the vertical FLW.

Sound correct?

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The key difference is elbow position, not right wrist bend.

Daryl - from your earlier post, it sounds like you are allowing the right wrist bend action to alter your right elbow position and startup, which doesn't need to be the case (see Hogan waggle)

To a fair extent, the more you have pitch elbow, the more seqenced your release and the more 'on line' your delivery must be. Likewise, the more towards punch elbow, the more simultaneous the release and the more cross line your delivery.

See the photos in the 'champions at impact' section of the gallery - maintained right wrist bend until both arms straight.
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Old 02-03-2008, 02:56 PM
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See the photos in the 'champions at impact' section of the gallery - maintained right wrist bend until both arms straight.
Ed,

This is a great post but I would like to take it "one step beyond". I feel like when I compress the ball my best, I not only maintain impact pressure in my hands, but I especially maintain a bent right wrist to finish. The wedges remain intact from top, throught impact, to finish. It is a great way to get back on track, by focusing on finish alignments.
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Old 02-03-2008, 03:10 PM
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Ed,

This is a great post but I would like to take it "one step beyond". I feel like when I compress the ball my best, I not only maintain impact pressure in my hands, but I especially maintain a bent right wrist to finish. The wedges remain intact from top, throught impact, to finish. It is a great way to get back on track, by focusing on finish alignments.
And how do we maintain the bent right wrist past both arms straight......the FINISH SWIVEL. If anybody needs info, there is a great video of Jeff showing this with Yoda in the gallery section.
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Old 02-03-2008, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by golfgnome View Post
Ed,

This is a great post but I would like to take it "one step beyond". I feel like when I compress the ball my best, I not only maintain impact pressure in my hands, but I especially maintain a bent right wrist to finish. The wedges remain intact from top, throught impact, to finish. It is a great way to get back on track, by focusing on finish alignments.
Mr. Champion,

Would you please share your Right Hand grip Angle on the Club? I mean Palm up; how many degrees across the Palm/Fingers?
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Old 02-03-2008, 06:06 PM
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The key difference is elbow position, not right wrist bend.

Daryl - from your earlier post, it sounds like you are allowing the right wrist bend action to alter your right elbow position and startup, which doesn't need to be the case (see Hogan waggle)

To a fair extent, the more you have pitch elbow, the more seqenced your release and the more 'on line' your delivery must be. Likewise, the more towards punch elbow, the more simultaneous the release and the more cross line your delivery.

See the photos in the 'champions at impact' section of the gallery - maintained right wrist bend until both arms straight.


10-2-B
10-3-B
10-9-A
10-10-D
10-18-B with Startup and Release Swivel - BLW/FRW Startup - Downstroke, FLW/BRW as Release Roll Procedure
10-23-C
10-24-D
10-25-A Level Right Wrist
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Old 02-03-2008, 06:17 PM
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Mr. Champion,

Would you please share your Right Hand grip Angle on the Club? I mean Palm up; how many degrees across the Palm/Fingers?
I start with a right arm flying wedge with my bent level and vertical right wrist. I may be a little different but I prefer to start closer to fix than most "pure swingers". I like structure and this gives me that feel. No wobble!
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Mr. Golfnome,

Do I understand that your right wrist remains bent from start to finish, or are you referencing the resetting of the wedges at finish?
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Old 02-04-2008, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by golfgnome View Post
Ed,

This is a great post but I would like to take it "one step beyond". I feel like when I compress the ball my best, I not only maintain impact pressure in my hands, but I especially maintain a bent right wrist to finish. The wedges remain intact from top, throught impact, to finish. It is a great way to get back on track, by focusing on finish alignments.
Indeed, my post should have included "at least" until both arms straight
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Old 02-04-2008, 12:29 PM
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10-2-B
10-3-B
10-9-A
10-10-D
10-18-B with Startup and Release Swivel - BLW/FRW Startup - Downstroke, FLW/BRW as Release Roll Procedure
10-23-C
10-24-D
10-25-A Level Right Wrist
More consistent pattern IMO would be 10-18-A (or even C) and 10-24-E. Perhaps I've moved into the 4th barrel/hit however.

10-18-B can be quite powerful and 'effortless', but depends greatly on zero interference with CF and a very well educated pivot (Bobby Jones).
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Old 02-04-2008, 03:11 PM
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More consistent pattern IMO would be 10-18-A (or even C) and 10-24-E. Perhaps I've moved into the 4th barrel/hit however.

10-18-B can be quite powerful and 'effortless', but depends greatly on zero interference with CF and a very well educated pivot (Bobby Jones).
10-18-A is Off Plane Clubshaft Backstroke. He was pushing for 10-18-C.

10-18-B is Anti-Flat Left Wrist. But, Homer urges, demands, requires the Flat Left Wrist from Start-up to Both Arms Straight. Homer didn't like to be incomplete so he included it as a variation. He was so funny. He dealt with 10-18-B Golfers in a very sly way. He purposely withheld the Power Package Assembly Point for Golfers using 10-18-B (FLW/BRW). It would be 10-21-F DOWNSTROKE RELEASE SWIVEL, which doesn't exist. A missing Piece?

Ahh! It's in the TGM Unabridged Edition: "Complete TGM". I'm working on the "Cliff Notes". It's not mentioned in: "Homers Greatest Hits" Vol. 1 (Hitters Bible). But it is thoroughly explained in "TGM For Swingers".

I'm sure, by now, if Homer was publishing, the 20th edition would be very complete and 400 pages.
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