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Old 12-02-2007, 09:46 AM
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Hitting has long been misunderstood, ignored, and discounted, even in TGM circles. So, I knew that there were concepts that I was missing from previous instruction and that I had a long road ahead. I started looking at the Angle of Approach Delivery Line, because of 6-H-0, #10. Also, Homer spoke at length about AADL in another Master's class. So, I became totally intrigued with 2-J-3.

I wanted to understand the geometry, and I knew that the clubhead had to (visually) move in a straight line. The only way that I could fathom the clubhead moving in a visual straight line and the circular orbit of the clubhead staying intact was for the eyes to be on the Plane of the clubhead orbit. In the beginning, I was troubled as the Plane seemed to be steeper than anything I knew to be acceptable. ("It's steep, now remember. For this reason, you can't point at the line with the clubshaft. To point at the line with the right forearm, it's going to be a steeper plane. This procedure is very upright. Actually, it's a vertical plane for the clubhead, (slight pause), slightly inclined."

Then, I had issues with the Clubshaft. I didn't want to violate any of the 21 commandments in 1-L. But, the geometry left 1-L, #5 & #6 in jeopardy. His quotes verified my beliefs: "You're not concerned with the clubshaft. The clubshaft seems to be immaterial. It represents a clubhead plane rather than a clubshaft plane. Line momentum of the clubhead."
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Old 12-02-2007, 01:23 PM
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. . . it's going to be a steeper plane. This procedure is very upright.
What adjustments in loft/lie have you found necessary for this procedure, for yourself as well as students?
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Old 12-02-2007, 03:25 PM
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What adjustments in loft/lie have you found necessary for this procedure, for yourself as well as students?
Usually, the only difference that I see is less variance between Address shaft angle and Impact shaft angle. Since we test Impact dynamically on a lie board, it matters less what they look like at Address. I'm sure you've seen plenty of people with the toe of the club off the ground at Address that also marked it perfectly at Impact. I know for a long time it looked like Mac was tying his shoes at Address, but his shaft angle looked normal at Impact.

But, I find very little (if any) difference in the way I'm marking the club when using 10-5-A or 10-5-E.
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Old 12-02-2007, 03:35 PM
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As an aside, anyone that attended the Falcon's Fire school saw the most remarkable transformation that I've ever seen when someone changed to 10-5-E.

8cork was remarkable in almost no time when he tried the procedure. He went from shanking every ball to pure 3-D Impact. I know his life changed that day, and I think he still shoots in the 70's. I have no idea what his scores were with the shanks.
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Ted,

When using AoA...
Still a few clouds...

Why is the shaft on a steeper plane?
Doesn´t the shaft point at the closed planeline?
When you teach people AoA, do you than put them closed-closed.
Where does the clubface point in a closed-closed scenario, let´s say with a seven iron ?
Do you use AoA?

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Ted,

When using AoA...
Still a few clouds...

Why is the shaft on a steeper plane?
Doesn´t the shaft point at the closed planeline?
When you teach people AoA, do you than put them closed-closed.
Where does the clubface point in a closed-closed scenario, let´s say with a seven iron ?
Do you use AoA?

Thank´s!
I can use either 10-5-A or 10-5-E.

"You're not concerned with the clubshaft. The clubshaft seems to be immaterial. It represents a clubhead plane rather than a clubshaft plane."

So, you have to disregard the shaft and think outside the box. Think of the clubhead moving on a steep Plane, with the clubshaft somewhat internal to the circular orbit of the clubhead.
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Can you explain what the clubhead plane is?

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Why is the shaft on a steeper plane?
Doesn´t the shaft point at the closed planeline?
My post #3 here should help you understand these concepts:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ad.php?p=45971

There is a treasure of information in the archives, including more on this topic. I encourage readers to use the 'search' function to learn more about any area of interest. Just click on 'search' on the task bar at the top of the page, enter the desired key words and go!
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As an aside, anyone that attended the Falcon's Fire school saw the most remarkable transformation that I've ever seen when someone changed to 10-5-E.

8cork was remarkable in almost no time when he tried the procedure. He went from shanking every ball to pure 3-D Impact. I know his life changed that day, and I think he still shoots in the 70's. I have no idea what his scores were with the shanks.
Thanks Ted. That day in Florida completely changed my golfing life. My wife is also very thankful because I now spend much more time with the family than on that obsessive search for the perfect golf swing. I don't overthink anything anymore, 10-5-E is second nature for me. Just trust the Geometry.
I played last week for the first time in a couple of weeks. That's a long layoff for me. After a few range balls to loosen up, I went out with a 35, not as solid on the back but I managed a 75 that day. Not bad for a 10 handicap 6 to 8 months ago.
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Thanks Ted. That day in Florida completely changed my golfing life. My wife is also very thankful because I now spend much more time with the family than on that obsessive search for the perfect golf swing. I don't overthink anything anymore, 10-5-E is second nature for me. Just trust the Geometry.
I played last week for the first time in a couple of weeks. That's a long layoff for me. After a few range balls to loosen up, I went out with a 35, not as solid on the back but I managed a 75 that day. Not bad for a 10 handicap 6 to 8 months ago.
Two weeks off and out in 35...that's great for anyone. Have you gone under par for 18 yet?
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