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Old 12-13-2007, 03:28 PM
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Timing and Resistance to Impact Deceleration
I'm trying to figure out the best approach for resisting impact deceleration. It seems that the Hitter needs to be concerned with this concept. 6-F-0, " With the Axe Handle Technique (2-K), top speed is also established at Release but its 'Overtaking Rate' tends to decelerate, making Trigger Delay and Timing much more critical. It is almost exclusively Muscular Force, totally annulling and stifling any intrusion by Centrifugal Force. So, the Clubhead is not picking up speed during the Overtaking (Release) Interval, either when Hitting or Swinging." So, we're completely reliant on our muscles to develop and maintain clubhead speed. I notice he says "Trigger Delay" not "Maximum Trigger Delay". Per 7-20, "Maximum Trigger Delay noticeably restricts maximum Handspeed (6-N-0).

According to 6-B-1-A, " Maximum Power is produced by adjusting Hand speed to permit the maximum Thrust through Impact before maximum extension is reached." I believe we help to achieve this through the use of the Slow Start Down.

6-N-0, Release types, "The earlier in the Downstroke the Release occurs, the larger, longer, and slower the Release Arc will be for both Clubhead and Hands. Other things being equal, this will require higher Hand Speed to produce yardage equivalent to that of the short, quick Arc of the Maximum Delay."

One thing I did find recommended is this 6-B-0, " So, the Clubhead (or primary Lever Assembly) whose Swing Radius extends to the feet is much harder to decelerate during Impact, which means better Clubhead Speed at Seperation." I gather from this passage that extending the Swing Radius to the feet is accomplished through the Lag and Drag of the Pivot Train, which is an out-of-line condition.

Per 7-3, the Hitter is Loading the entire Primary Lever Assembly. This must mean then that we are also driving the entire Primary Lever Assembly to and through Impact.

So, what's the best approach for the Hitter. Obviously the Swing Radius is crucial. In addition to the long swing radius do we want to achieve a high handspeed to minimize the effect of any slow down which may occur? In which case do we want to use the,12-1-0 recommended, Non-Auto Sweep and delay the Right Arm Throw? But not so late as to affect maximum handspeed. This is the approach I'm leaning towards at the moment, with Release being Triggered a little bit past the picture 10-24-B #1, but I'm definately to open to others thoughts and experiences.

Like I said at the beginning, I believe this must be important in achieving maximum power strokes. I'm just not quite sure of the exact components to use and how to best use them.

What are anyone's thoughts on the best approach?
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Old 12-17-2007, 12:45 PM
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Delay and the Level Right Wrist
6-B-1-C, "Maximum Trigger Delay is gained is by causing the Right Elbow to 'Pass the Ball' - which is the Line-of-Sight-to-the-Ball - before Release." It is my understanding that this applies to Hitters also. With the Punch Elbow I'm having trouble doing this and still maintaining the Level Right Wrist. I think maybe I'm being too rigid with the defintion of Level. For example, as I understand it picture 9-2-8, Downstroke, would show a level right wrist. On the other hand, picture 9-2-9, Release, looks to me to be cocked. Am I looking at this all wrong?

In 2-R Homer says, "The pictures depict exactly what they are intended to depict and as near to 'Zero Tolerance' as is humanly possible and then only because they were carefully and expertly posed." So, I don't believe he would have posed a cocked right wrist, when per 6-B-3-0-1 the "ideal" is that the Right Wrist is always Level. I realize that 9-2-9 is meant to depict Release, but believe the Flying Wedges would still be accurate.

So, what's the story with the Level Right Wrist? I obvioulsy need some help to alleviate my confusion as I would like to follow the Yellow Book as accurately as "humanly possible". Is it just not possible to always have a perfectly level right wrist?
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Old 12-17-2007, 02:05 PM
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6-B-1-C, "Maximum Trigger Delay is gained is by causing the Right Elbow to 'Pass the Ball' - which is the Line-of-Sight-to-the-Ball - before Release." It is my understanding that this applies to Hitters also. With the Punch Elbow I'm having trouble doing this and still maintaining the Level Right Wrist. I think maybe I'm being too rigid with the defintion of Level. For example, as I understand it picture 9-2-8, Downstroke, would show a level right wrist. On the other hand, picture 9-2-9, Release, looks to me to be cocked. Am I looking at this all wrong?

In 2-R Homer says, "The pictures depict exactly what they are intended to depict and as near to 'Zero Tolerance' as is humanly possible and then only because they were carefully and expertly posed." So, I don't believe he would have posed a cocked right wrist, when per 6-B-3-0-1 the "ideal" is that the Right Wrist is always Level. I realize that 9-2-9 is meant to depict Release, but believe the Flying Wedges would still be accurate.

So, what's the story with the Level Right Wrist? I obvioulsy need some help to alleviate my confusion as I would like to follow the Yellow Book as accurately as "humanly possible". Is it just not possible to always have a perfectly level right wrist?
In 9-2-9, the right wrist is bent and level; it is not cocked.
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Old 12-17-2007, 02:25 PM
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I'm trying to figure out the best approach for resisting impact deceleration. It seems that the Hitter needs to be concerned with this concept. 6-F-0, " With the Axe Handle Technique (2-K), top speed is also established at Release but its 'Overtaking Rate' tends to decelerate, making Trigger Delay and Timing much more critical. It is almost exclusively Muscular Force, totally annulling and stifling any intrusion by Centrifugal Force. So, the Clubhead is not picking up speed during the Overtaking (Release) Interval, either when Hitting or Swinging." So, we're completely reliant on our muscles to develop and maintain clubhead speed. I notice he says "Trigger Delay" not "Maximum Trigger Delay". Per 7-20, "Maximum Trigger Delay noticeably restricts maximum Handspeed (6-N-0).

According to 6-B-1-A, " Maximum Power is produced by adjusting Hand speed to permit the maximum Thrust through Impact before maximum extension is reached." I believe we help to achieve this through the use of the Slow Start Down.

6-N-0, Release types, "The earlier in the Downstroke the Release occurs, the larger, longer, and slower the Release Arc will be for both Clubhead and Hands. Other things being equal, this will require higher Hand Speed to produce yardage equivalent to that of the short, quick Arc of the Maximum Delay."

One thing I did find recommended is this 6-B-0, " So, the Clubhead (or primary Lever Assembly) whose Swing Radius extends to the feet is much harder to decelerate during Impact, which means better Clubhead Speed at Seperation." I gather from this passage that extending the Swing Radius to the feet is accomplished through the Lag and Drag of the Pivot Train, which is an out-of-line condition.

Per 7-3, the Hitter is Loading the entire Primary Lever Assembly. This must mean then that we are also driving the entire Primary Lever Assembly to and through Impact.

So, what's the best approach for the Hitter. Obviously the Swing Radius is crucial. In addition to the long swing radius do we want to achieve a high handspeed to minimize the effect of any slow down which may occur? In which case do we want to use the,12-1-0 recommended, Non-Auto Sweep and delay the Right Arm Throw? But not so late as to affect maximum handspeed. This is the approach I'm leaning towards at the moment, with Release being Triggered a little bit past the picture 10-24-B #1, but I'm definately to open to others thoughts and experiences.

Like I said at the beginning, I believe this must be important in achieving maximum power strokes. I'm just not quite sure of the exact components to use and how to best use them.

What are anyone's thoughts on the best approach?
The best approach is not go any farther until you have gone to the Hitter's Emergency Room and studied every post by Ted Fort and Yoda in every thread. Ted Fort is a pure hitter who executes the hitting stroke with extreme power and precision and he can teach it.

You will probably get most of your questions answered there; but, even if you don't, you will come away with a comprehensive understanding of the technique that will make your self-study much easier.

Start with the oldest posts (page 14 of the ER) and work your way to the present.
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Old 12-17-2007, 05:20 PM
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In 9-2-9, the right wrist is bent and level; it is not cocked.
The positions of the Right Wrist in those 2 pictures just don't look the same, to me. 9-2-8 the position looks like 4-B-1. 9-2-9 looks like 4-B-2. I just don't see how in 9-2-9 the wrist bone and the edge of the hand are forming a straight line.

Another example, compare 9-2-5 #1 to 9-2-9. By defintion 9-2-5 #1 would definately be a bent and level right wrist. Just look at the relationship of the fingers to the forearm. If that arm was placed straight out in front of your body so that the arm was parallel to the ground the fingers would be angled towards the ground, just like 4-B-1.

I'm trying to understand how 9-2-9 meets the conditions set forth in the definition. Like I said before maybe I'm misunderstanding.
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Old 12-18-2007, 08:16 PM
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Resist (or minimize) the impact deceleration by impact acceleration.

The more the acceleration at impact, the better it resists against impact deceleration.

The toughest is to keep it accelerating at impact.

"Sustain the Lag" to keep it accelerating at impact.

"Sustain the Lag" by accelerating without releasing.

Why not take advantage of the "Secret"?
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