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Old 08-27-2007, 05:13 PM
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Let's discuss the #1 Reason for NO LAG with a FORWARD LEANING SHAFT.

In the book 3-F-7-A, 3-F-7-B, and 6-D go into this. What do you find to be the #1 Reason? I'll start...

#1-- The fear of the ball going to the right. The player senses that if he gets his shaft leaing forward and his hands ahead of the ball... he will leave the ball to the right.

Fix... go ahead and hit some balls on the range attempting to get the hands ahead of the ball at Impact. The hands will probably look like they are over your left toes, and ahead of your line of sight, and with the Clubface OPEN, OR POINTING A LITTLE TO THE RIGHT. After a few balls, if your grip is good, the CLUBFACE will probably start to SQUARE UP at Separation, and some good divots(forward of the ball), and some good solid shots should start coming. I suggest starting with some 1/2 to 3/4 swings( knockdowns) with an 8 or 9 iron.
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Old 08-27-2007, 06:45 PM
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Frank, Was a little confusing for me - and maybe for others. Could you clarify- Are you saying to find the #1 reason (or in this post it will be everyone's idea of what the #1 reason) for A) Having NO LAG- i.e. losing the clubhead lag pressure and B) therefore not achieving a forward leaning shaft. The way it read sounded like an unusual situation where you wanted to know the #1 reason where people lose the lag but still achieve the forward leaning shaft.

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Frank, Was a little confusing for me - and maybe for others. Could you clarify- Are you saying to find the #1 reason (or in this post it will be everyone's idea of what the #1 reason) for A) Having NO LAG- i.e. losing the clubhead lag pressure and B) therefore not achieving a forward leaning shaft. The way it read sounded like an unusual situation where you wanted to know the #1 reason where people lose the lag but still achieve the forward leaning shaft.

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Who the hell is Frank mongoloid?

I say the #1 reason for no lag is standing to the side of the ball and having an inclined plane with a stick that has the sweet spot outside the shaft.
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I say the #1 reason for no lag is standing to the side of the ball and having an inclined plane with a stick that has the sweet spot outside the shaft.
Now that is funny!
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:36 PM
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Frank, Was a little confusing for me - and maybe for others. Could you clarify- Are you saying to find the #1 reason (or in this post it will be everyone's idea of what the #1 reason) for A) Having NO LAG- i.e. losing the clubhead lag pressure and B) therefore not achieving a forward leaning shaft. The way it read sounded like an unusual situation where you wanted to know the #1 reason where people lose the lag but still achieve the forward leaning shaft.

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O.K... Mr. Mike O.... The #1 reason people cannot get the IMPACT condition like the one pictured of Mr. Kelley in your posts. I said... it is the fear of hitting the ball to the right. Then I gave the Fix.
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:21 PM
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Lost of rhythm ( over acceleration of the hands)gets my vote !

Faulty Pivot is not far behind.

am i close?
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Who the hell is Frank mongoloid?

I say the #1 reason for no lag is standing to the side of the ball and having an inclined plane with a stick that has the sweet spot outside the shaft.
Hey DODO HEAD!
Frank is Lagster - Check out his BIO. If you'd listen to me and read my post - it would help!
To have LAG requires an IQ above a fence post- sorry you missed out!

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Old 08-27-2007, 11:30 PM
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O.K... Mr. Mike O.... The #1 reason people cannot get the IMPACT condition like the one pictured of Mr. Kelley in your posts. I said... it is the fear of hitting the ball to the right. Then I gave the Fix.
Thanks,
That's what I thought you were saying - just making sure.
If I followed your reason - and we came up with some specifics- then the following might be good places to look for a root cause- in addition to your clubface motion fix/awareness.
1) weak grip
2) open clubface
3) Ball too far back in the stance
4) Etc. Etc.
5) Low IQ in some cases! Hmm. Hmm. No one in particular!!
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:52 PM
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Let's discuss the #1 Reason for NO LAG with a FORWARD LEANING SHAFT.

In the book 3-F-7-A, 3-F-7-B, and 6-D go into this. What do you find to be the #1 Reason? I'll start...

#1-- The fear of the ball going to the right. The player senses that if he gets his shaft leaing forward and his hands ahead of the ball... he will leave the ball to the right.

Fix... go ahead and hit some balls on the range attempting to get the hands ahead of the ball at Impact. The hands will probably look like they are over your left toes, and ahead of your line of sight, and with the Clubface OPEN, OR POINTING A LITTLE TO THE RIGHT. After a few balls, if your grip is good, the CLUBFACE will probably start to SQUARE UP at Separation, and some good divots(forward of the ball), and some good solid shots should start coming. I suggest starting with some 1/2 to 3/4 swings( knockdowns) with an 8 or 9 iron.

I agree, Lagster that the fear of banging the ball to the right does cause a lost of Lag, but IMHO, as an outcome of the subconscious result of STEERING. I also think that a fear of totally missing the ball leads to a Lost of Lag due to throw-away- a form of Steering. These golfers just swing the clubhead instead of Educating the Hands.

As you posted, the Hands need to go thru the Line of Sight (centered head) before impact. I do agree that golfers ‘see’ the clubface “open” without the knowledge or know-how as to how it “closes” and quickly try to adjust. The Rhythm of a Flat Level Left Wrist thru the Line of Sight will prevent Lag loss. Here, as your lesson accomplishes, the pivot should respond to the Hands as they Roll on the Straight Plane Line.
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Hey DODO HEAD!
Frank is Lagster - Check out his BIO. If you'd listen to me and read my post - it would help!
To have LAG requires an IQ above a fence post- sorry you missed out!

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Oh boy . . . you're back to reading peoples bio's again? Last time that happened somebody ate their own cerebelum.

Lagster (Frank) . . . . soon you'll be receiving a call from a person with hair on their voice probably whispering something like "I'm in your house."
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