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Old 11-29-2011, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe View Post
The club face is the "little end" of a big bat, but that doesn't make it a little bat, unless you choked down all the way to the hosel!

Horizontal Hinging gives more compression because it eliminates the layback component of Angled Hinging.
Because angled hinge is an uncentered motion it loses compression compared to the uniform arc of the dual horizontal hinge. The angled hinge is not "welded" to the face, to the point of contact like the dual horizontal hinge.


one of the primary concepts of the golfing machine is to monitor the clubhead and clubface through the hands, we guide the motion through our Hands because the clubface will do accordingly. As if the clubface were the hands...similar to gripping down to the face..... How ever your hand rotates, that little bat does accordingly....

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Old 11-30-2011, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe View Post
The clubface is not a little bat, which implies the face is rotating around the hosel.
Is that what happens with a bat though?

looks like it is rotating about a center point not the handle end here...wouldn't want to be this ump

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Old 11-30-2011, 03:03 PM
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How ever your hand rotates, that little bat does accordingly....
Yes, however the "little bat" is really a "little propeller" which spins around the line from #3PP through the sweetspot.
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Old 11-30-2011, 03:07 PM
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Is that what happens with a bat though?

looks like it is rotating about a center point not the handle end here...wouldn't want to be this ump
Only if you don't let go of it like Delmon.
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Old 11-30-2011, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe View Post
Yes, however the "little bat" is really a "little propeller" which spins around the line from #3PP through the sweetspot.
How does this differ from a golf club?
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Old 11-30-2011, 03:34 PM
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How bout the bat lies flat against a vertical plane through the left shoulder?

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Old 11-30-2011, 03:38 PM
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How does this differ from a golf club?
It doesn't, the whole club spins around that line.
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Old 11-30-2011, 04:10 PM
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How bout the bat lies flat against a vertical plane through the left shoulder?

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The leading edge of the face does, but it's still not a bat, because if you turn the LFW, you're rotating the whole club, including the sweetspot. The clubhead is just the last short piece of the long bat.

AJ thinks that the clubface rotates around the shaft, which is why he calls it "da bat". Moreover he thinks that the rotation of the clubface speeds up the sweetspot. I thought so too, until HK pointed out that it's actually the shaft that rotates around the sweetspot. The only way to make the sweetspot go faster is to swing faster or drive harder, and no amount of increase in rotational toe speed around the sweetspot will add to it, because the hosel is backing up as fast as the toe is going forward.
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:07 PM
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. . . HK pointed out that it's actually the shaft that rotates around the sweetspot.
Homer Kelley was the first in history to identify and articulate this phenomenon. Thirty years ago next January, he explained it to me personally. For that I am grateful.

On the lesson tee now almost every day, I am more aware than ever of its importance. Consciously or subconsciously, the higher-handicap golfer does not allow the natural rotation to occur. Hence, Golf's #1 Snare: Steering (3-F-7-A).

I demonstrate the basic concept two ways. First, using my big club and a plumb bob. Then, with the aid of alignment rods, the interaction between the Sweetspot, the Clubshaft, and their respective Planes.

If I can scare up some help this weekend, I'll do a video.

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Old 11-30-2011, 09:02 PM
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