[BerntR]

Too me serge releases right wrist bend late like couples. They do it in a way that causes the face to layback and not roll. You can find pics of hogan like that too.

This was what I wanted to see, bucket. I've never seen Hogan "wait" for the clubhead to close - or shorten the length of his left arm to get a proper club face at impact. But that's what I saw in some of those Sergeo videos.


Daryl wrote:

I think that you make a very good point. The Flip may create some slack and the Left Arm manipulation that you're observing may be an affect while trying to "Time" Impact.

I may have spoken prematurely about Sergio, but whenever I see an out of Line Primary Lever at Start Down, I immediately think and look for a Flip Release.

Anytime the Shaft and Clubhead are Radially out of line with the Left Arm and Left Wrist, a slight pull with the Left Arm will cause the Clubhead to get in-line. Thus, when we, at Start-Down, try to leave the Hands at the Top, we are Aligning the Left Arm and Clubshaft while taking out the Slack.

Sergio allows the Clubhead to Drop Slightly below the Hands at Startdown and then, when ready, he pulls the Hands strongly downward. Typically, the force is strong enough so that rather than the Clubhead simply "getting in-line", it creates CF and causes the Club to Release. "Flip Release"

The Clubhead races to the outside. This is "Timed" to get aligned by/at Impact.

Daryl,

I am quite impressed that you could deduce a flip from the Start Down in Sergeo's stroke. Yes. Really.

I've seen nothing but sustained lag pressure in El Ninjo's stroke before but at a closer look I saw the flip as you called it. I'll have to chew on your post for a while. But do you really mean out of line? Or do you mean out of something that has to do with rhythm and geometry?

As far as I know, out of line in TGM simply means lagging.