LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Swingers, hitters, and, "*"ers Thread: Swingers, hitters, and, "*"ers View Single Post #1 11-24-2010, 01:18 AM O.B.Left Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,433 Originally Posted by HungryBear TGM creates 2 categories, Swingers and Hitters. I would be interested in hearing others opinion and a third category, not mentioned in TGM, the THROWER. Does the category exist and how does it square with TGM? Which TGM alignments would be compatible with the "THROWER”? The Bear Hey Bear In short , Id say that the Thrower pattern as outlined by Ralph Sunnyside can be found in the yellow book. But not as a "third category". RS defines three basic actions: muscular thrust , weight shift and rotation. Homer stuck to pushing vs pulling and didnt rank weight shift as even a power accumulator now that I think about it. Hmmmm. Its all a matter of definition again. These sorts of discussions are really good I believe. Definition leading to identification . Identification to separation. Separation to mastery (or to insanity perhaps, not sure right now). Couple of quick points: -he's talking about hitting as a right arm punch , not so for Major Basic strokes....see what Homer termed the "Right Arm Throw". Its another throwing like motion this time with Active Right Arm extension. Push Basic is the inline punch of the right arm..........for short shots only. -Hitters have pivot lag in Total Motion. -I like D's point about longitudinal vs radial .......its a big subject so Im not going to start into it here. I love Bernts post too. In regard to what is mutually exclusive Id suggest that's it. You can not Longitudinal and Radial at the same time. (Can you?) Longitudinal then Radial? ....sure even 12-2 has Radial. In a motor boat pulling a skier kinda way (nothing pushes the skier radially, the boat turns around the small pulley wheel and cf throws the skier out, the speed of the skier going from the boats speed to boat speed plus plus). Or you could Radial only, 12-1 Drive Loading. (not the only way to hit by anymeans). But not Radial then Longitudinal or Longitudinal only. Longitudinal doest have any associated CF throwout. 'Cause its traveling in a straight line. If you're "arrow from quivering" you're not Releasing. This is the straight line hand path , be it theoretical or real. -I thought I said I wasnt going to get into this, no I didnt, yes I did! ... .... ( No I didnt.) Uh Oh this aint mastery this is insanity. Last edited by O.B.Left : 11-24-2010 at 12:22 PM. O.B.Left View Public Profile Send a private message to O.B.Left Find all posts by O.B.Left