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Old 10-18-2010, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
1. Homers Drawings were extended to Low-Point for Illustrative purposes (see above quote).
Agreed, to draw them to scale often makes the geometry's differences look minute and therefor insignificant. I think that though it may appear to be minute to our eyes, it is anything but insignificant to the ball and therefor to the golfer. The impact interval is way smaller than illustrated but......its effects upon the ball are profound.

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2. We can move this thread to your thread if you like.
Naw, you're on a roll here, mine turned into something else, plus as a general rule I dont wish to contribute to any thread that would have me as a contributor.

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3. Dear O.B. Left; The Clubface is hooked to divert forces from going out to right field.
Which raises the matter of ball flight. 2-C-1-#3 is a straight shot Id imagine? Our D plane friends can help us out here maybe until we're up to speed. But if we move the ball back and square the face to the hole .......draw shot that starts straight and curves left id imagine.

D, did you do that drawing of 2-C-1 #1 Nice reproduction with colour too. Are you interested in trying 2-C-1-#3 but with the ball back of low point? If so it'd be nice to include a plane line and its direction vis a vis the target.

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But you brought up 2 very Important Points.

The Angle of Approach is "Plane Angle" from the Impact Point to Low-Point and it should be represented with a "Looking Down" Drawing as in 2-C-1 #3. If you Draw the "Angle of Approach" in a Down-the-Line-View, as in 2-C-1#1, it "is" the Sweetspot Plane Angle - i.e. it is lying flat against the Sweetspot Plane. Therefore it is always intersecting. See the Illustration below. The Sweetspot Plane "is" the Angle of Approach: the Green Line
Angle of Approach Delivery Line , 2-J-3 is hard on the head. Im thinking the Angle of Approach is a visual from the golfers perspective of the clubhead blur. So 2-C-1-#3, Im thinking is not a birds eye, plan view but a golfers p.o.v. , Homer did say "looking down", "player's view". These words were carefully crafted but often overlooked. You could say its the golfers view of the Sweetspot on the clufbace burr, but its not one and the same as the Sweetspot Plane Id say unless the Sweetspot plane is elevated to eye level .....which it isnt.


Totally agree with everything about Bucket......sickening man. Get the heck out there billy goat , hop the fence ....


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So, I think that we should tell the "D Plane" people that their goal is to make the ball "ROLL" up the Clubface as much as possible to keep the spin axis horizontal to the ground thereby eliminating side-spin and increasing backspin for more lift and carry. Then hit up with the Driver and learn to hit up with the wedges too.
You joke of course , but I do like hitting up on it sometimes with a driver......I think Homer's words on the matter are correct as written and support hitting up on it if the situation merits. Per 2-J-2 INSIDE OUT IMPACT:

"The ball should always be struck prior to the low point of the Down-stroke, even when using a Driver, except under special conditions or to produce a special effect, which is a separate area of consideration."


This is gonna be a good thread, Daryl, 'specially with those D plane guys around to "straighten us out", so to speak. Im glad we have Trackman to discuss too. We're on the verge of "adding more detail", via additional information and questions of all kinds. More detail, more precision, more birdies.

Thanks for the photo of Homer's garage. Cant believe its unchanged.

Last edited by O.B.Left : 10-18-2010 at 03:17 PM.
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