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Old 05-07-2010, 12:28 PM
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Flat left wrist


There is more than one way to achieve the flat left impact wrist.
Using the pivot to square it up or a rolling wrist??? Which is preferred??
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Old 05-07-2010, 03:00 PM
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There is more than one way to achieve the flat left impact wrist.
Using the pivot to square it up or a rolling wrist??? Which is preferred??
geez, clearly not a Miller fan

He's got a point re: shaft exit (Miller's view would be a bent plane line), but keep in mind the shaft is NOT the plane unless the #3 accumulator is zero'd out. In Allenby's case, it is closer to zero'd than most.
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Old 05-07-2010, 03:49 PM
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I like Miller. I consider him the Arch typical Professional Golfer. He played great golf while on the Tour, and he knows nothing about swing mechanics. He serves as a reminder that knowledge will never completely replace hard work.

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Old 05-07-2010, 05:22 PM
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Using the pivot to square it up or a rolling wrist??? Which is preferred??
ED & D,
Interested to hear your opinions?
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Old 05-07-2010, 06:11 PM
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Using the pivot to square it up or a rolling wrist??? Which is preferred??
ED & D,
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Neither.

I take the path less traveled.

I maintain a Flat Left Wrist which creates a Primary Lever that I support using a Bent Right Wrist and Right Arm Flying Wedge Aligned at Right Angles to the Left Arm Flying Wedge.

This Structurally Rigid and Loaded Power Package is delivered by the Pivot to the Release Point where my Left Arm is thrown off my chest and a passive right Elbow allows that side of the Triangle Assembly to Straighten as the throwout action of Centrifugal Force pulls the Secondary Lever causing my Left Wrist to Uncock.

As my Pivot Imparts Roll, my Left Wrist remains vertical to the associated Horizontal Plane and Centrifugal Force aligns the Clubface while the Clubhead is moving simultaneously Down, Out and Forward through the Impact Interval until both arms are straight.

Then, I breathe.

That's just the Alignment side of the equation. Don't ask about Power.

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Old 05-07-2010, 06:33 PM
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Lots of what was said in the video my current AI is trying to get me to do.....some great stuff in there. I like Miller for being honest on a lot of stuff unfortunately he does not know the golf swing well enough, or at least cannot put his thoughts into words, so he should not be doing it for NBC.
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Old 05-07-2010, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mb6606 View Post
Using the pivot to square it up or a rolling wrist??? Which is preferred??
Hey mb

Interesting video and question thanks. Clubface is a Left Hand thing of course but didnt Homer also say somewhere, cant remember where, that Hinge Action can be accomplished via any of the Three Zones?

For full shots my guess is that using Zone 1 to do it is the best. Although in the absence of that ability you may have to resort to other means to get the Hinge Action you desire....... The Hitter for instance with his natural tendency towards Angled Hinging will have to use his Arms, Zone 2 or worse still his Left Wrist Zone 3 to roll himself some Horizontal Hinging quite possibly. A compensation or overriding of things.

So my guess is Zone 1, then 2 then 3 in order although the alignment is really a left hand deal. Vertical Hinging would require a Zone 3 intervention for anyone at anytime I guess. Intentional or otherwise. Reverse Rolling being the most unnatural of rolls.
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Old 05-07-2010, 06:59 PM
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Using the pivot to square it up or a rolling wrist??? Which is preferred??
ED & D,
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the pivot causes the throw out for a swinger, in cases where you really have to force the roll to square up, odds are that you are compensating for something (bad alignments, off plane motion and/or rhythm)

think of it this way - in a sequenced release of a swinger, the wrist uncocks, the pivot causes the roll

compensations can be caused by a poor setup of the flying wedges (improper left hand grip and/or a right forearm setup too high/right wrist not level) - see Tiger's current move for a perfect example of steering as a result of bad alignments
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No question that Allenby has a terrific pattern. He is one of the best ball strikers out there!
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Old 05-07-2010, 10:31 PM
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Neither.

I take the path less traveled.

I maintain a Flat Left Wrist which creates a Primary Lever that I support using a Bent Right Wrist and Right Arm Flying Wedge Aligned at Right Angles to the Left Arm Flying Wedge.

This Structurally Rigid and Loaded Power Package is delivered by the Pivot to the Release Point where my Left Arm is thrown off my chest and a passive right Elbow allows that side of the Triangle Assembly to Straighten as the throwout action of Centrifugal Force pulls the Secondary Lever causing my Left Wrist to Uncock.

As my Pivot Imparts Roll, my Left Wrist remains vertical to the associated Horizontal Plane and Centrifugal Force aligns the Clubface while the Clubhead is moving simultaneously Down, Out and Forward through the Impact Interval until both arms are straight.

Then, I breathe.

That's just the Alignment side of the equation. Don't ask about Power.
Can you really swing with passive arms and have any serious power?
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