Flat left wrist

[Daryl]

All geometry relates to the geometry of Impact right...........so Id say the Elbow Plane is just as valid as any of the other so called "normal Planes". (To the best of my recollection)

Homer abandoned the right angles thing, it would seem. I get the logic of it , I think, but keep going back to the glossaries definition of the pivot. Which to me is Hands to Pivot. Its all about getting the Right Forearm on Plane, however that is done by the Torso and all.

That's really hard to wrap your head around without a Plane Board. There's really not much difference in degrees of Angle from an Elbow to a TSP. It's hard to grasp the alignment implications.

[innercityteacher]

Is that Cink?

The other two are amateurs who submit their swing videos for analysis. My guesstimate is that there are 20 Elbow Plane Swingers for every TSP Swinger. Long Drive Champs have more TSP Swingers than Elbow Plane Swingers but their videos are so "Circus" oriented that it's rare to find one that can be analyzed.

Hi Daryl! If the Flyers win tonight, can I still ask you questions on this forum?

I actually have a question on topic. I'm sortof nervous about it so I'll give you my reference point-

10-6-D TURNING SHOULDER

Locating this Plane Angle reference point geometrically is very involved but seems readily defined from a “mechanical” description. Which is this; the Arms are simply raised and lowered vertically and the Wrists are Cocked and Uncocked with Left Wrist vertical to the ground at all times in a true Single Wrist Action – no Turn or Roll (10-18-C). All this, while the Pivot is imparting the On-Plane motion to the Hands and Arms in both directions. It brings the Hands directly to a Squared Shoulder Plane location. Its Off Plane (Vertical) Loading motion tends to Feel like Clubhead Throwaway but it is the Vertical Left Wrist application of the Golfer’s Flail as shown in Sketch 2-K#5, which insures a positive Downward motion for an effective Three Dimensional Impact.

The basic “Turning Shoulder Plane” procedure – (A) below – is undoubtedly the most widely used Basic Plane Angle. The player who takes the Clubhead “straight back from the ball” is using this Plane Angle. The Clubhead is also brought “straight down through the ball” for Impact. This is a dependable explanation of the “Feel” of this procedure. And this procedure brings the Club into the loaded condition on a vertical Plane instead of on the Inclined Plane. With a full Wrist Cock Stroke the Hands are “under the Club.” This calls for Single Wrist Action (10-18-C).

Its most obvious feature is the vertical line of the muscular effort – an inclined plane with vertical force. It is extremely effective and dynamically correct. Study 2-L#2, 2-N-1 and 2-P.


The bold highlight is mine. I think this is what I have been experimenting with and calling it a "chicken wing" or "inclined ferris wheel." I extend both arms straight back shoulder feels up and then down from an impact fix position. When my left wrist bone is elevated at the end of the swing, the ball goes far and very straight. When I attach my back elbow to the endless belt, I get the raised left wrist and power and direction.

Have you ever experimented with this? Are there better golfers that use this that you are aware of.

As a funny side note, one of the driving range pros plays in Eastern PA amateur events and is a senior in hs. He now checks this site, and he is a lefty. He asked me last evening to explain RFT. I showed him the motion and hit a pretty good 145 yard 8 iron. He smiled and said "I got it." He then hit a 200 yard 6 iron.

I do lots of things wrong in my golf swing. It amazes me that I can understand a concept intellectually but not do it. With TSP, (my version) I hit a 155 yard 8 iron dead online.

Thanks.

[Daryl]

Hi Daryl! If the Flyers win tonight, can I still ask you questions on this forum?

What are the Flyers?

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Its most obvious feature is the vertical line of the muscular effort – an inclined plane with vertical force. It is extremely effective and dynamically correct. Study 2-L#2, 2-N-1 and 2-P.

The bold highlight is mine. I think this is what I have been experimenting with and calling it a "chicken wing" or "inclined ferris wheel." I extend both arms straight back shoulder feels up and then down from an impact fix position. When my left wrist bone is elevated at the end of the swing, the ball goes far and very straight. When I attach my back elbow to the endless belt, I get the raised left wrist and power and direction.

Have you ever experimented with this? Are there better golfers that use this that you are aware of.


Thanks.

This is my Guess........

Turning Shoulder Plane: – B Vertical Left Arm Swing Plane version. See page 156

Annika Sorenstam,

[12 piece bucket]

The second guy looks like Lehman to me, not sure.

Nah . . . that's Cink . . . nike driver . . . both goathumpers who are good at it.