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Old 01-13-2008, 11:49 PM
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Executing the Sequenced Release
Another frustrating weekend of ball-striking and I'm really struggling to understand where the problem lies. I'm trying to get to more of a pure swinging motion and have felt that I have never really executed the sequenced release motion properly. I tend to have lots of lag and a late trigger so my miss tends to be a push to the right. I think it's because I get more of a simultaneous release motion (or perhaps too much overlap in the uncock/roll move).

So..... is there an effective way to work on the SEQUENCED release that the swinger should be using? Is it a matter of exaggerating the "uncocking" really early in the downswing in order to feel the "roll" portion more clearly?

CG

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Old 01-14-2008, 10:49 AM
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The release of the swinger is the sequenced release. Uncock, then roll to get the flat left wrist in one of the 3 hinging conditions, and then mantain the vertical relationship of the flat left wrist to its associated plane until follow-through.

Concentrate on what uncocks the secondary assembly , for the swinger the centrifugal force, or wrist, forearm muscles do the uncocking.

The matter of exaggerating the "uncocking" really early in the downswing is not crucial here, and I see it as a separated component as sweep , snap release belong to a different component.
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Old 01-14-2008, 05:35 PM
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Bucket did many posts about hammering on plane...start with vertical plane the angled plane etc....good stuff.

Start with one armed motions (assume right handed) so use your left arm only...forget the ball...just get used to feeling the motion.

Check your ball position....you might have to make sure that your ball is appropriately forward enough and that your post is stationary....if you are sliding your hips and left shoulder targetwards too much....then low point moves forward....and clubface is open at impact.

I like the Alex Morrison keep head turned to right type look and feel to help keep my right shoulder on plane ( back and down) and also keep my stationary post stationary.

Also really get a sense of accumulator 4 release to allow an arm swing which then leads to a sequenced release...

At least that is what i felt when i thought that i had got it...
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Old 01-14-2008, 06:32 PM
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Thanks for the input guys. Good images to go with and some that I've used but have gotten away from.

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Old 01-14-2008, 08:31 PM
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Have you considered...?
I can relate to case of the "blocks." At times I would not "allow" my right arm to straighten...in an attempt to secure a "late hit." I know that in swinging the right arm is passive, but that does not mean non-existent! Ironically, what helped with this is learning how to hit! Focusing on that right tricep made TGM come alive! I am not suggesting that you hit, but perhaps if you monitored your right arm to make sure that it is not resisting CF (muscular rigor mortis?) in an attempt to stay bent. Make sense? I saw a picture of Byron Nelson at impact when I was a junior. His right arm was quite bent. Monkey see...monkey do! I did not see the picture from the same swing showing Nelson at follow through. Hitta, or swinga that bad boy has gotta straighten!
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Old 01-14-2008, 08:58 PM
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I can relate to case of the "blocks." At times I would not "allow" my right arm to straighten...in an attempt to secure a "late hit." I know that in swinging the right arm is passive, but that does not mean non-existent! Ironically, what helped with this is learning how to hit! Focusing on that right tricep made TGM come alive! I am not suggesting that you hit, but perhaps if you monitored your right arm to make sure that it is not resisting CF (muscular rigor mortis?) in an attempt to stay bent. Make sense? I saw a picture of Byron Nelson at impact when I was a junior. His right arm was quite bent. Monkey see...monkey do! I did not see the picture from the same swing showing Nelson at follow through. Hitta, or swinga that bad boy has gotta straighten!
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Old 01-14-2008, 11:32 PM
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Another frustrating weekend of ball-striking and I'm really struggling to understand where the problem lies. I'm trying to get to more of a pure swinging motion and have felt that I have never really executed the sequenced release motion properly. I tend to have lots of lag and a late trigger so my miss tends to be a push to the right. I think it's because I get more of a simultaneous release motion (or perhaps too much overlap in the uncock/roll move).

So..... is there an effective way to work on the SEQUENCED release that the swinger should be using? Is it a matter of exaggerating the "uncocking" really early in the downswing in order to feel the "roll" portion more clearly?

CG
If Uncocking early helps you, then you are Angle Hinging. If a Sequenced Release works, it's an accident.

If, at the start of Release, the Left Wrist , Forearm and Clubshaft are in-line (Primary Lever), the Left Wrist Flat and the Right Wrist Bent, then you can only Angle Hinge (10-3-C, 10-3-D and most people who use 10-3-A). You need to Un-Cock and Roll simultaneously or you will bend the Plane Line. You have no Choice. Get a bench and see for yourself or better, address an imaginary ball facing a wall with your Clubhead touching the wall. Position yourself at Release with a Flat Left Wrist, then Uncock, then Roll. You’ll see exactly what I’m talking about.

Start your downswing and stop at Release. Is the Clubshaft parallel to the ground and parallel to the Plane Line. If your Left Wrist is Flat (not bent) then your Right Wrist is Bent (Strong Single Action Grip) and if your Clubshaft is On Plane, and your Hands are approximately in front of your right leg, then you are Angle Hinging. For a Hitter, that’s good because the Primary Lever is rolling (Pivot) while the Left Wrist is Uncocking. Look at your Clubhead at this point. It is slightly Toe Down. If you’re a Swinger, and everything looks the same as above, then you must use Angled Hinging too.

The swinger who uses Angled Hinging must not try a Sequenced Release because you will bend the Plane Line. Swingers can compensate the Simultaneous Release by using a Very Strong Left Hand Grip (10-2-D) and still benefit from CF, with the Left Thumb and #3 Pressure Point directly behind the Shaft at impact (Like many Pro’s). If you don’t, then you’re Switting. Keep in mind that the Right Wrist remains Level throughout for both Hitting and Swinging, or Simultaneous or Sequenced release.

Flat Left Wrist/Bent Right Wrist at Release is not compatible with Sequenced Releases. Bent Left Wrist at Release is not compatible with Simultaneous Releases.

If you Stop the downswing and look at your Left wrist position and see a Cocked and Slightly Bent Left Wrist (Picture 9-3-9 Release, page 131), and Level Right Wrist and your elbow is in a Pitch position (10-3-B), and the sole of the Clubhead is On The Plane (looks like an open clubface to most people), then you must Sequence the Release and Roll (Swivel) the Secondary Lever through impact after the Left Wrist Un-cocks. Uncocking returns the Left Wrist to Level and then becomes Flat from rolling (Actually-Swiveling, Roll is a Pivot term 2-G-Paragraph 3), otherwise you will bend the Plane Line and arrive at impact with a Bent Left Wrist (if you can find the Ball). You don’t need to think about Rolling. The Hands are leading the Clubhead and The Pivot will help impart Roll. Swingers’ Roll (Swivel) Looks like un-throttling a Motorcycle and not like Back Handing a Tennis Racket as a Hitter might look while simultaneously Rolling and Uncocking.

So, Swingers can choose Angled or Horizontal Hinge but should adjust their Grip for Angled Hinging to rely on CF.
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Old 01-14-2008, 11:40 PM
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Nice!!!
Not intended for me but I enjoyed your detailed post nonetheless. Plenty of chicken on that bone! Speaking of which...where is Bucket?
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Old 01-15-2008, 01:30 PM
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Daryl,

As Okie said.... plenty of meat to chew on there, and good food for thought. I'm incubating on it now.

Thanks.

CG
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Old 01-15-2008, 02:23 PM
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The question to answered is do you think the Sequenced Release is the PROCEDURE . . . or a DESCRIPTION of the Procedure? AND . . . . you better make sure your chosen Procedure matches your Grip Type. The entire book is written for the most part under the assumption that you are employing a 10-2-B grip . . .so . . . are you?
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