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Old 02-02-2009, 05:53 PM
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Increase Driver Trajectory..Shaft vs. Loft??
which component has the most influence of increasing driver trajectory, shaft or loft? I play a 9.5 head, and thinking about going to a 10.5 or a lower kick-point shaft.

BUT, I do not want to significantly increase spin.

Any ideas?

My driver ss is 109 at last testing.
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Old 02-02-2009, 06:54 PM
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which component has the most influence of increasing driver trajectory, shaft or loft? I play a 9.5 head, and thinking about going to a 10.5 or a lower kick-point shaft.

BUT, I do not want to significantly increase spin.

Any ideas?

My driver ss is 109 at last testing.
There's another good thread on this topic elsewhere on the site. I'll try to find it later if I have some time but you can probably search for it pretty quickly. Per Jeff's advice, the magic combination for me was a higher lofted head with a heavier or stiffer shaft. A stiffer and/or heavier shaft will decrease spin, so you can add loft and increase your launch angle. I found it hard to find the heavier shafts for demo and ended up in a 10.5 head with an X shaft that produces pretty good numbers and nice trajectory. Would like to try an 11 degree in a heavier shaft for comparison sometime.
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Old 02-02-2009, 07:37 PM
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There's another good thread on this topic elsewhere on the site. I'll try to find it later if I have some time but you can probably search for it pretty quickly. Per Jeff's advice, the magic combination for me was a higher lofted head with a heavier or stiffer shaft. A stiffer and/or heavier shaft will decrease spin, so you can add loft and increase your launch angle. I found it hard to find the heavier shafts for demo and ended up in a 10.5 head with an X shaft that produces pretty good numbers and nice trajectory. Would like to try an 11 degree in a heavier shaft for comparison sometime.

For those of you who havent already guessed it, BamBam is called BamBam for a reason. Dont buy his x shaft without first looking in the mirror or at the launch monitor.

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Dont buy his x shaft without first looking in the mirror or at the launch monitor.
good call, O.B. That disclamer shoud've been in my original post. Find the right combo to fit your swing, preferably with the help of a good clubfitter. I was playing a 9.5 degree head a few years ago, but after seeing Jeff in Atlanta, I added more loft. From what I've read and been told, that suggestion is pretty safe for most people playing less than 10 degrees of loft on their driver.

I worked with a local guy on my driver. With his help and some of my own research, I was able to find something that worked. My swing speed was pretty fast when I checked it last fall, so the X works pretty well for me.
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There's another good thread on this topic elsewhere on the site.
Here it is: http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=4448&
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 300Drive View Post
which component has the most influence of increasing driver trajectory, shaft or loft? I play a 9.5 head, and thinking about going to a 10.5 or a lower kick-point shaft.

BUT, I do not want to significantly increase spin.

Any ideas?

My driver ss is 109 at last testing.
Driver launch is created by loft at impact. You either can increase the loft of your driver or create it by catching the ball at low point or slightly forward of lowpoint, or both. I do not advocate swinging "up" with any club but catching the ball "up plane" will produce better launch numbers with decreased spin.

Shaft flex has more to do with launch angle than kick point. Kick point and torque provide the "feel" of a shaft.

The most important part of selecting a driver is on course performance. You may actually want a lower flight if you play on firm, fast, flat fairways. Carry distance is great, but only if you get the roll with it.
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Tracing left and right
The loft also has a lot to do whether or not you trace left or right of your targe line, right? If I create a significance divergence from in to out....ball appearing to be further back in my stance...the handle high...clubface pointed out in right field...I essentially have an in to out path with an open to the target line (but closed to the plane line) clubface which produces a higher launch angle (think Kenny Perry?) Whereas someone that traces a straight line left of the target line...has the ball further forward in the stance but it is still relative to low point...this produces an over the top move (OTT to the target not the plane line)...increases shaft lean...steeper angle of attack...lower launch angle. I know the MORAD boys call that a CP swing...the other extreme being CF. So it has a lot to do with that right? Makin' sense?
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:59 PM
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The loft also has a lot to do whether or not you trace left or right of your targe line, right? If I create a significance divergence from in to out....ball appearing to be further back in my stance...the handle high...clubface pointed out in right field...I essentially have an in to out path with an open to the target line (but closed to the plane line) clubface which produces a higher launch angle (think Kenny Perry?) Whereas someone that traces a straight line left of the target line...has the ball further forward in the stance but it is still relative to low point...this produces an over the top move (OTT to the target not the plane line)...increases shaft lean...steeper angle of attack...lower launch angle. I know the MORAD boys call that a CP swing...the other extreme being CF. So it has a lot to do with that right? Makin' sense?

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Old 02-04-2009, 10:56 AM
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I guess NOT! If I want to hit it low into the prevailing Oklahoma gale I close the clubface...then trace a plane line perpendicular to the closed face...I then rotatate the machine to the right so that although the face is still hooded it is aligned to the intended target...resulting in a pull...with a lower trajectory. Apparently Sam Snead did a bit of this although I am sure he could do it all. My point was that tracing left tends to close the clubface relative to the target line (what MORAD refers to as CP)...tracing right has the clubface "open" to the target line thus increasing loft. So I guess the trip your sweetspot takes in relation to target line impacts...well...impact and the resulting launch angle. sorry for thinking out loud!
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I guess NOT! If I want to hit it low into the prevailing Oklahoma gale I close the clubface...then trace a plane line perpendicular to the closed face...I then rotatate the machine to the right so that although the face is still hooded it is aligned to the intended target...resulting in a pull...with a lower trajectory. Apparently Sam Snead did a bit of this although I am sure he could do it all. My point was that tracing left tends to close the clubface relative to the target line (what MORAD refers to as CP)...tracing right has the clubface "open" to the target line thus increasing loft. So I guess the trip your sweetspot takes in relation to target line impacts...well...impact and the resulting launch angle. sorry for thinking out loud!
If I'm interpreting this right, aren't you tracing a plane line that is parallel to your target line? The only line that is different from 'normal' square/square is your stance line, which would be rotated to the right.
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