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Is it right or wrong from Golf Digest
http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1990

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread5466.html

TGM:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread7825-13.html #126


Things to look into..


1. Extensor Action.

2. Hinge Action.

3. The Flying Wedges.

4. The differences between Hitting and Swinging.

5. The Power Package Concept.

6. Delivery Paths.

7. Release Triggers.

8. The Inclined Plane and the Geometry of the Stroke.

9. Loading Procedures.

10. The Three Zones and their respective Components.
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http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=923

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=5956

Originally Posted by annikan skywalker:
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...?t=1940&page=4

The components of the "Wedges":


Left Arm Flying Wedge
The Hinge Pin
The Hinge Blade
The Strap Hinge
The entire Left Arm
The #3 Accumulator
The #2 Accumulator
The #2 Pressure Point
The Base of Left Thumb...1/2 of the #1 PP
The Clubshaft

Right Forearm Flying Wedge
The Right Elbow Location
The Right Forearm
The Level Right Wrist
The Right Wrist Bend
The cup of the right hand palm ...the other 1/2 of the #1 Pressure Point
The #3 Pressure Point
The LCG or "Sweetspot" Plane..

TGM Secrets Of G.O.L.F.
GEOMETRICALLY ORIENTED LINEAR FORCE

If you don't like a given Component Variation, recommended or otherwise, then HOMER KELLEY would be the first to tell you to avoid it and use something else. The reasons for 'not liking' something ranges from physical inability to execute to psychological. There are ten trillion Strokes in TGM, roughly half Hitting and half Swinging. Use the one(s) you like. Again quoting HOMER, "Do whatever you like. Have fun! Enjoy the game!" HOMER KELLEY

THE G.O.L.F. SWING IS:

1) THE HINGE ACTION = Clubface Control – 2G
2) Of an ANGULAR MOTION = Club head Control – 2K
3) On an INCLINED PLANE = Club shaft Control – 2F

THE THREE ESSENTIALS ARE:

1) A Stationary Head
2) Balance
3) Rhythm

THE THREE IMPERATIVES ARE:

1) A “Flat” Left Wrist
2) A Club head Lag Pressure Point
3) A Straight Plane Line

THE MACHINE CONTROLS THREE FUNCTIONS

1) The Inclined Plane is CLUBSHAFT Control – See 2-F and 4-0
2) The Pressure Points are CLUBHEAD Control – See 2-K and 4-0
3) The Left Wrist is CLUBFACE Control – See 2-G and 4-0

THE THREE STATIONS OF THE MACHINE

1) ADDRESS - be as prepared as possible
2) THE TOP - be as precise as possible
3) THE FINISH - be as smooth and complete as possible through Impact to the Finish

THE STAR SYSTEM TRIAD

1) ·The THREE IMPERATIVES (2-0)
2) ·Controlling the THREE FUNCTIONS (1-L-A/B/C)
3) ·Through the THREE STATIONS (12-3)

THREE ZONES

1) BODY CONTROL------ Pivot ---------- Body----------- Balance
2) CLUB CONTROL ------ Power --------- Arms ---------- Force
3) BALL CONTROL ------ Purpose-------- Hands --------Direction

PERSONALLY, I THINK OF THE TWELVE SECTIONS
AS FOUR SUBSETS OF THREE – LYNN BLAKE

1) Three to get ready -- Preliminary Address, Impact Fix, Adjusted Address.
2) Three to get up -- Start Up, Backstroke, Top.
3) Three to get down -- Start Down, Downstroke, Release.
4) Three to get around -- Impact, Follow-Through, Finish.

AT THE TOP

♦ Shoulders CENTERED over the hips.
♦ Hips CENTERED between the feet.
♦ Feet feel EQUAL pressure.

MOTIONS

♦ Basic Motion = Clubhead goes two feet back and two feet through (kinda
like a chip)
♦ Acquired Motion = Clubhead taken back until the right forearm is parallel
with the ground and then parallel with the ground again on the follow through ("9-3").
♦ Total Motion = Full golf swing.

POWER ACCUMULATORS

PA # 1 is the bending and straightening of right arm (Muscle thrust)
PA # 2 is the cocking and uncocking of the left wrist (Velocity power)
PA # 3 is the turn and roll of the angle established between the Clubshaft and the Left Forearm when you take the grip, the more in the fingers, the sharper angle, to zero out the #3, put the club in the palm...just like putting grip.(Transfer Power)
PA # 4 is the angle formed by the Left Arm and the Left Shoulder. (Radius Power)

PRESSURE POINTS

PP # 1 Right heel pad against left thumb
PP # 2 Last 3 fingers of left hand
PP # 3 Right index finger against shaft
PP # 4 Left arm against chest

FIVE STEP POWER PACKAGE SEQUENCE

1) Accumulation
2) Load
3) Storage
4) Delivery
5) Release.

THERE ARE 4 ACCELERATION PERIODS:

1) Start Down -- Shoulder Acceleration.
2) Down stroke -- Hand Acceleration.
3) Release -- Club head Acceleration.
4) Impact and Separation -- Ball Acceleration.

BACKSTROKE = Up-Back-In

DOWNSTROKE = Down-Out-Forward

THE THREE BASIC WRIST MOTIONS CAN BE CLASSIFIED AS:

4-A. HORIZONTAL..........Bend and Arch CLUBSHAFT .....Grip Motion
4-B. PERPENDICULAR ....Cock and Uncock CLUBHEAD.......Wrist Motion
4-C. ROTATIONAL..........Turn and Roll CLUBFACE........Hand Motion

TERMS FOR THE CENTER POSITION IN EACH CLASSIFICATIONS ARE:

4-A. FLAT (-A)
4-B. LEVEL (-B)
4-C. VERTICAL (-C).

CORRECT WRIST CONDITIONS

The Left Wrist is always Flat and the Right Wrist is always Bent and Level.
THE MAGIC OF THE RIGHT FOREARM
Bending and Straightening the Right Elbow will RAISE AND LOWER the Left Arm
and/or COCK AND UNCOCK the Left Wrist with out Bending, Flattening or
Cocking the Right Wrist. Practice this first at Impact Fix. So, the Right Elbow
Action either powers and/or controls all three elements of Three Dimensional
Impact (6-C-0) per 1-L-9. All this you will come to know as the MAGIC OF
THE RIGHT FOREARM.

UPDATES TO THE BOOK OF G.O.L.F.

“Because of questions of all kinds, reams of additional detail must be made
available—but separately. And probably endlessly.” (1-H)

STROKE PATTERN CONCEPT

♦ 24 Components-actions that can be properly executed in more than one
way: Constants or Sameness’s
♦ 144 Cataloged Variations: Variables or Differences
♦ 446,512,500,000,000,000 ways to do it right
♦ Every component of an efficient and dependable Golf Stroke has a proper
relationship to every other component, and that relationship is
geometrical. Understanding that the Golf Stroke is based on the LAWS of
the geometry and physics of Force and Motion (the Mechanics) we can
effectively investigate the complete understanding of the Principle of
Golf, which is….“The Line of Compression”. Through the “Mechanics” of
Golf we can learn to produce and manipulate…. “The Line of
Compression”
♦ The number one alignment is the Flat Left Wrist (at impact). The Flat Left
Wrist is a Golfing Imperative. Without it, more information means only
more confusion.

NEWTON’S LAWS

Force and Motion Vectors must comply with Newton’s first three laws;
♦ The Law of Inertia: Newton’s First Law. There is no change in the
motion of a body unless a resultant force is acting upon it.
♦ Force and Acceleration: Newton’s Second Law. Whenever a net
(unbalanced) force acts on a body, it produces an acceleration in the
direction of the force, an acceleration that is directly proportional to the
force and inversely proportional to the mass of the body.
♦ Reacting Forces: Newton’s Third Law. For every acting force there is a
reacting force that is equal in magnitude but opposite in direction.
1L-16 & 2-D-0 DIRECTIONAL FACTORS
Homer Kelley had the basics correct almost 40 years ago:
1L-16 The Plane Line controls the Clubhead Line-Of-Flight. Clubface
alignment controls the Ball Line-Of-Flight.
2-D-0 The direction of the ball will always be practically at right angles to the
Clubface and square to the leading edge of the Clubface at separation.
D-Plane is simply a more complex-in depth version of Homer's work. If you are
a physicist, you need to know the D-Plane, if you are a golfer, or just an idiot
like me, what Homer said about the balls starting path will do just fine.

BALL STARTS CLOSER TO FACE AND CURVES AWAY FROM PATH
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Yoda:
The Sweetspot lies in the plane of both the Left Arm and the Right Forearm Flying Wedges. Except during Impact, the Clubshaft is its visible proxy in both cases, especially when the Clubface is turned On Plane.

At LynnBlakeGolf, we teach MOTION. Motion learned MECHANICALLY; aligned GEOMETRICALLY; and performed (ultimately) SUBCONSCIOUSLY. [For the record, these lines are copyrighted.]
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The Golfing Machine Explained

Use the above sketch (1-L) to see and understand the following characteristics

of all Mechanically and Geometrically correct Golf Strokes – form the longest

Drive to the Shortest Putt per Chapter 2. visualize this System as based on

three all-encompassing Primary Concepts on which all details can easily be

attached as the surface – they are the Hinge Action (2-G) of an Angular Motion

(2-K) operating on an Inclined Plane (2-F).


1) The Stationary Post (player's head) accurately returns the Clubhead through the ball (Centered Arc).

Regardless of Axis Tilt of the body, Tripod with centered eyes.

2) The Post may turn (Pivot) but does not "Sway" or "Bob".

Provides a fixed Head height.

3) There is no wobble in the Clubshaft attachment (Grip).

The Hands are clamps. Extensor Action.

4) The Hinge Assembly controls Clubface alignment.

The First Imperative.

5) The Clubshaft lies full length on a flat. tilted plane.

When on Plane.

6) The Clubshaft always points to the Plane Line except when they are parallel to each other.

See 2-F

7) The Lever Assembly is driven by exerting pressure against it.

Note: 7 thru 11 deal with the movement of the Lever Assemblies and the Second Imperative).
Pressure is on the aft side of the shaft

Pressure Points 1,2,3.

8 ) No portion of the Lever Assembly can swing forward independently.

Bent Left Wrist.

9) Regardless of how the Lever Assembly is driven, it moves in a circle.

Around the left Shoulder.

10) The Lever Assembly must be driven through Impact by an On Plane force, (moving towards the Plane L:ine).

Swingers use Centrifugal Force, Hitters use Muscular Drive of an active Right Arm.


11) Clubhead Force and Motion is On Plane at right angles to the Longitudinal Centre of Gravity and varies with the speed, Mass, and Swing Radius.

Not Clubface Motion, Sweetspot, Pressure is on the aft side of the shaft.


12) Ball speed is dependent on both before Impact and after Impact Clubhead Speed.

Not from effort, but a mechanical advantage. Reference 2-E.

13) The Clubhead travells Down and Out until it reaches "Low Point".

Reference Yoda’s drawings

14) Divots are taken "Down and Out" not just "Down".

Reference Yoda’s drawings

15) The Club starts Up and In after "Low Point" but the Thrust continues Down Plane during the Follow-Through.

No quitting, the right elbow is still bent at Impact and Low Point and continues to Drive or be Driven until straight which is at the end of the Follow-Through (8-11), reference 6-A-4.


16) The Plane Line controls the Clubhead Line-of-Flight. Clubface alignment controls the Ball Line-of-Flight.

Both must be monitored. Imperative #3 and #1.

17) The Clubface need to be square to the Line-of-Flight only at Point of Separation.

Impact and Separation are two different points and can be up to 3/4 of an inch in difference. The Left Hand face down the Angle of Approach at Impact.

18 ) Changing the Plane Angle has no effect on the Plane Line.

The roof can change, but the gutter remains the same.

19) Stance Line, Plane Line and Flight Line are normally parallel.

“Normally” being the key word.

20) For any given Line-of-Compression (through the ball) every Machine must produce identical Impact Alignments.

Impact Alignments must match the desired shot.

21) The relationship of all Machine positions and motions can be described by a geometrical figure.

Everything has a geometric relationship to everything else.

(Explanations By DREW CHAPMAN – PGA – GSEB)

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Six pages for Your viewing Pleasure

There were many things that didn't make the cut do to time constraits: 24 Components, Twelve Sections, etc...

The explanation was more detailed then the outline, but I hope it helps:

The Golfing Machine
(G.O.L.F.) by Homer Kelley
Drew Chapman PGA, Authorized Instructor of The Golfing Machine

General Guidelines for your student to see progress

1. Understand the Information in their best way (details, visual, one thought, feel)
Instructor’s responsibility is to Inform and Explain
Encourage the student to ask questions.

2. Remember the Information –write it down. It is going to take some work and study

3. Correct Information. Objective (Geometry and Physics) vs. Subjective (Golf Lore)

Newton’s First Three Laws

1. The Law of Inertia
2. Force and Acceleration
3. Reacting Forces

Lawyers, Accountants, Doctors, Engineers, Mechanics, etc. spend years learning their craft. They don’t deal in subjectives. Demanding that golf Instruction be kept simple does not make it simple, only incomplete. You need a vast tool chest if you are going to tune a racecar.
Guided Struggle vs. a blind struggle

4. The Student’s Ability to Absorb and Apply

Recognizing major difference before recognizing minor differences.
Let Mechanics produce, Look, Look, Look, let feel reproduce.
Educated Hands sense pressure points and Alignments

Making a difference motion vs. a better one

Homer Kelley, author of The Golfing Machine, 1907-1983

· “Problem Solver” at Boeing Aircraft
· Lesson gift from his boss at an indoor range at night in Seattle
· First Round-two 60’s
· Shot a 77 in 5 months, but why? Area golf pros (experts) could not give him the answer he sought.
· 16 years later- the Flat Left Wrist
· 28 years to write the first edition
· 40 years to complete the sixth edition
· His Vision was to provide the Correct Information to the Golfing Public

"Past Untruths" TGM has had to live with: it is strictly a method, strictly mechanics, way too complicated.
Reality: Complete System based on Options and Variations, Feel System based on Educated Hands.

Stroke Pattern Concept

· 24 Components-actions that can be properly executed in more than one way: Constants or Samenesses
· 144 Cataloged Variations: Variables or Differences
· 446,512,500,000,000,000 ways to do it right
· My Way (My System) vs. The Way (Their Method)

Terminology in the book is dictionary definitions.

The Problem
· Hit the back of the ball with a square clubface,
· swinging forward
· swinging down the line or move the clubhead in a straight line before or after Impact.

The Number #1 Cause for bad shots is a Bent Left Wrist and Loss of Rhythm (clubshaft and Left Arm not staying in line).

Bare-boned definition of the Golf Stroke:

· the Hinge Action
· of an Angular Motion
· on an Incline Plane

The Three Functions of the Club

· Clubface
· Clubhead
· Clubshaft

The Three Imperatives (things we must have)
· Flat Left Wrist-Clubface Control-Hinge Action
· Lag Pressure Point-Clubhead control-Angular (circular) Motion
· Straight Plane Line-Clubshaft Control-Inclined Plane (Heart and Soul of the Motion)

Three Essentials (things that are nice to have)
· Stationary Head
· Balance
· Rhythm

The Three Stations (Static)
· Station 1 Address- be as prepared as possible
· Station 2 The Top- be as precise as possible
· Station 3 The Finish- be as smooth and complete as possible through Impact to the Finish

The Star System Triad
· The Three Imperatives
· Controlling the Three Functions
· Through the Three Stations


Geometry of Circle
· Center -Left Shoulder
· Radius-bottom of the radius is the bottom of the stroke, low point (in the ground) always points at the plane lines
· Tangent
· Chord
· Impact
· Plane (visualized as having four corners) pitched roof
· Club moves downward thru impact, outward and forward (three dimensional)
· On Plane means pointing the clubshaft (sweetspot) at the Plane Line, by tracing with the right forearm and right forefinger, or the clubshaft is parallel to the Plane Line (gutter of the roof).
· Plane can tilt as long as you don’t change the base line (gutter)
· Hands visually cover Left Foot
· Right Forearm points well in front of the ball on Plane

Plane Shifts can be hazardous
A Zero Shift Plane-Right shoulder turns to the plane of the right forearm (right shoulder, #3 pressure point and sweet spot all on the same plane) and move down the plane through the target line into the ground to the low point (great hidden line). Three dimensional impact.
Plane line, Stance line, Target line are normally parallel


The Three Basic Wrist Motions
· Horizontal Flat Bent Arched
· Perpendicular Level Cocked Uncocked
· Rotational Vertical Turned Rolled

Law of the Flail-Left Arm creates a Flail (how farmers beat wheat)
· Centrifugal Acceleration
· Centrifugal Momentum
· Centrifugal Deceleration

Golfer’s Flail
· cocking and uncocking (Accumulator 2) Clubhead Motion
· turning and rolling (Accumulator 3) Clubface Motion
· There are no Horizontal Motions.

Alignment of Educated Hands
· Have to learn to go through the ball with a Flat Left Wrist and a Bent Right Wrist. Flattening the Right Wrist (horizontal motion) destroys the Flat Left Wrist.
· Once the left wrist uncocks to a Level Condition, The Flail should roll (on a line).
· Left Arm Flying Wedge-Plane of the Left Wrist cock Motion-vertical plane
When the club is gripped under the heel pad you have an angle: Angle of the #3 Accumulator (Left Arm Flying Wedge)
· Right Forearm Arm Flying Wedge the wrinkles are in the back of the wrist
Right Forearm and shaft on the same plane (right wrist is always level, never cocked or uncocked)
· Wedges are always at right angles or at 90 degrees to one another and are always in Impact Alignments.

Physics-Optional Procedures, Power Considerations
· A Pull (Swinging)
· A Push (Hitting)

Power Package
· Arms and Club

Four Power Accumulators
o #1 Right Arm (Elbow Drive Out) Muscle Power
o #2 Left Wrist (Cock and Uncock) Velocity Power
o #3 Left Hand, forearm and Clubshaft (Turn and Roll) Transfer Power
o #4 Left Arm and Left Shoulder (Centrifugal Throwout) Radius Power
Lower Power use only one accumulator. Full Power for the Swinger uses Three Accumulators. The Hitter uses Four Accumulators.

Four corresponding Pressure Points-The Feel of Educated Hands
o #1 Heel of the Right Hand against the base of the Left Hand Thumb
o #2 Last Three fingers of the Left Hand
o #3 Right Hand Fore Finger
o #4 Left Arm contact against the Chest

Swinging
Adjusted Address: left wrist bent, right wrist straight (unlike impact condition)
Swing back motion to the Top using Extensor Action, stretching pulling out the left arm to get maximum width, to swing the club back along the Plane of the Right Forearm all the way to the Top.
(Startup Swivel) Left hand turns early to get on the face of the plane then comes up the face of the plane.
At end, the weight of the club causes the club to Load against knuckle of the right index finger.
Drag the butt end club toward the line
Left Hand Karate Chop Action through the line of sight to the ball
4-2-3 Sequenced Release (three stage rocket). (Accumulator1 is passive with the swinger): Club is thrown out using the right shoulder to blast the left arm off chest (#4 Accumulator) accentuated by wrist motion throw-out action releases of the left wrist cock (#2 accumulator) followed by wrist roll (#3 accumulator) into the Horizontal Hinge (closing only) Action to the finish.
Three Swivels (Startup Swivel, Release Swivel which mirrors the start up swivel, (Hinge Action), Finish Swivel)
Swingers-Rope Handle-shaft acts as a piece of string (functions as a rope). Don’t push on a piece of string. You whirl it out.

Hitting
Startup from a more structure Position with flat left, bent right wrist
Extensor Action “carry-back” with right forearm
Turns and rolls simultaneously all the time
Resists the backstroke from going to end, clubshaft stays high, behind the shaft
Hips lead to take out slack
4-1-2-3 Simulateous Release (batteries in parallel), Right Shoulder acts as a back-stop, actively uses his right tricep to drive the right forearm through the ball.
The right arm (elbow) as it uncocks, also uncocks the left wrist and simultaneously rolls left hand), gradual rolling all the time.
Angled Hinge-simultaneous close and layback
One swivel only, Finish Swivel
Hitters-Axe Handle-Shaft acts as an Ax Handle, stiffness is important. He needs all the support he can get to push against.

The Power Package assembly and sequence of operation
· Accumulate
· Load
· Store
· Deliver
· Release

Execution
· All Quick and Jerky motions are improper
· The Ideal: Deliberate (Down, Out and Forward), Positive (Acceleration), and Heavy (Clubhead Lag)
· Every move is coldly Deliberate, Calculated and Disciplined.
· Hit the ball with the Pressure Points in your Hands, not by flinging the clubhead at the ball.

The Formula for Ball Speed: (70% of your clubhead approach speed + 100% of your clubhead separation speed). While clubhead speed is important, you must also have resistance to slow down.

Three Types of Lag
1. Pivot Lag-every lagging component puts a drag on the leading components, Gear Train. Starts from the ground up
2. Accumulator Lag (Power Package, package of the Power Accumulators-the Triangle) located in the upper torso
3. Clubhead Lag- clubhead feel is sensed in the right fore finger is never released, senses acceleration. IT is the SECRET OF GOLF!

Hinge Action (club Face control)-duplicated in the Left shoulder. Hinge Assembly has a pin, mounting and a blade. The Pin is always mounted vertical or perpendicular to one of Three Basic Planes: Horizontal (ground), Angled (between the floor and the wall) or Vertical (wall). The Hinge always moves 90 degrees around the pin in a circle.

· Horizontal Hinge-closing only cluface motion, produces a roll, feels like a full roll of the Flat Left Wrist
· Angled Hinge-simulataneous closing and layback clubface motion, produces a half roll, feels like a no roll of the Flat Left Wrist
· Vertical Hinge-layback only clubface motion (stays square to the line), produces a no roll, feels like a reverse roll of the Flat Left Wrist

Dual Actions keeps Horizontal and Vertical on Plane. Angled Hinge is already on Plane and does not need a dual arrangement.
__________________
Drew



Homer's notes:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread1425.html
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http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread2700.html

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=6076

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread7743-5.html

Swinger vs Hitter

Pull vs Push
Longitudinal Acceleration vs Radial Acceleration
Rope Handle vs Axe Handle
Centrifugal Force vs Muscular Thrust
Whirl back vs Muscular Carry back
Quick vs Strong
Stretched Muscles vs Contracted Muscles
Loose vs Stiff
Pitch Basic Stroke vs Punch Basic Stroke
Spin vs Drive
Right Shoulder Flywheel vs Right Shoulder Backstop (Launching Pad)
Pivot Thrust (Momentum transfer) vs Power Package Thrust
End vs Top
Top Arc vs Straight Line
Quick Start Down vs Slow Start Down
PP#3 Top Side vs PP#3 Aft Side
Standard Wrist Action vs Single Wrist Action
Sequenced Release vs Simultaneous Release
Right palm 'on plane' vs plane 'through' right palm
Wrist Action vs Hand Motion
Drag Loading vs Drive Loading
Throw Out vs Drive Out
Start up and release Swivel vs No Swivel (except after Follow Through)
Wrist Throw vs Right Arm Throw
Arc of Approach vs Angle of Approach
Wheel Rim vs Wheel Track
Horizontal Hinging vs Angled Hinging
Full Roll Feel vs No Roll Feel
Draw vs Fade
On-Line vs Cross Line
Plane Line Rotation vs Grip Rotation
Soft hands vs (Relatively) Firmer hands
Standard Address vs Fix Address
Accumulator #4 vs Accumulator #1
Physics vs Geometry
Let it happen vs Make it happen
Mike Finney (Mikestloc) vs Ted Fort (YodasLuke)
Elegant vs Not so elegant (oh no, I'm gonna get hammered saying this!)

Why Not Use Right Forearm Magic?

Why not just use the Magic of the Right Forearm with Fanning and EA? This single grouped procedure tells the whole story, for everyone, every time

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Learn the Flying Wedge Alignment and how to maintain the Alignment at Impact (15 seconds). You will ALWAYS want to Grip the Club and Align your Wedges at Impact Fix.

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6-B-3-0-1 THE FLYING WEDGES The Clubhead may appear to move in an arc around and outside the Hands when related to the Left Arm – the very basic Left Arm Flying Wedge. But when related to the Right Forearm, it appears to move “On Plane” with the Right Forearm, at its normal rigid angle (Bent Right Wrist) – the Right Forearm Flying Wedge. So – except in Sections 1 and 3 (Chapter the entire Left Arm, the Clubshaft and the back of the Left Hand are ALWAYS positioned against the same flat plane – the Right Forearm and the Clubshaft are, in like manner, positioned on the plane of the Right Wrist Bend AT RIGHT ANGLES TO THE LEFT ARM PLANE. That is the precision assembly and alignment of the Power Package structure and is mandatory during the entire motion. Hitting or Swinging. Study 4-D-1 regarding “Grip” and “Flat Left Wrist”. Also see 7-3. Then, ideally, the Left Wrist is always Flat and the Right Wrist is always Level (4-A-1, 4-B-1).

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7-1 GRIPS – BASIC Basic Grip is the term indicating the mere act of holding on to the Club and relates primarily to the proximity of the Hands. They simply are either close enough to overlap or they are not close enough to overlap. So all non-overlapping Grips are Baseball Grips.

The Grips of Hitters and Swingers must differ in tightness. But still per 1-L-3, 6-B-3-0-1, 7-3 and 10-6-B. For the Swinger, Centrifugal Force Uncocks BOTH the Left Wrist and the Right Elbow per 7-19 and 7-20. So both must remain “Passive” but never “Whippy.” For the Hitter, the Right Triceps become “Active” and execute both Uncocking motions with a firmness that approaches the mandatory rigidity of the Right Wrist. With both procedures, the Flying Wedges’ alignments, as always, never waver. Grip types other than the Strong Single Action (10-2-B) either destroy the Wedges or produce inferior deviations. Also study 3-F-6. The prestressed (bent) clubshaft (10-19-A) and maximum Swing Radius (10-19-C) are resistances to Impact Decelerations that each must establish before – not during – Impact (2-M-1).

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FLYING WEDGES Example – multiple sails on a sail boat.
Mechanical – Push-Pull rams on hydraulic excavators mounted at 90 degrees to each other to position and hold the main beam.
Golf – Maintaining the constant simultaneous In-Line relationship of the Clubshaft with the Left Arm and the Right Forearm positioned at ninety degrees to each other along the Line of the Left Wristcock and the line of the Right Wrist Bend.
__________________
Daryl

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Understanding #3 Accumulator and its relation to Power (6-B-3-0), Hinge Action (7-10) and Rhythm (2-G) is critical to all students of TGM.
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The 3 zones

It all blends into a harmonious whole:

1) The Body rotating

2) The Arms supplying the power

3) The Hands suppplying the direction.

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When you controll the hands (LW), you control the club(face).

When you control the club, you control the ball.

When you control the ball, you control the game.

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G.O.L.F.

Geometrically Oriented Linear Force

There are 3 major concepts in TGM:

1) Hinge Action : Clubface control

2) Angular Motion : Clubhead control

3) The Inclined Plane : Clubshaft and sweetspot control

The golfstroke is the Hinge Action (2-G) of an Angular Motion (2-K) operating on an Inclined Plane (2-F).

The means to change a circle into a straight line while circling on an inclinced plane.

The golfstoke is about inscribing near perfect circles with the orbiting clubhead on the face of an inclined plane while simultaneously sustaining lag pressure on the clubshaft and controlling the clubface thru impact.

Your Stroke Pattern is your Motion. (12-1-0 or 12-2-0). Basic (12-5-1), Acquired (12-5-2) and Total (12-5-3). The Motion makes the Shots. As the Motion improves, Shots improve -- not vice versa (12-0).

So, make the Motion. Let the Motion make the Shots.

The Hinge Action must remain the responsibility of the Flat Left Wrist, not the Right Forearm Flying Wedge. Repeat after me the following TGM mantra:

Left Hand -- ClubFACE (Alignment).

Right Hand -- ClubHEAD (Acceleration and Guidance).
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"Support the On Plane Swinging Force in Balance"

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The SECRET OF GOLF is not a position - it’s a PRESSURE!


The Golfing Machine is about making thoughtful and
knowledgeable Choices leading to the ultimate goal of
 having an Uncompensated Stroke Pattern.


The three all-encompassing Primary Concepts on which all details can be easily attached as they surface - The Hinge Action (2-G) 
of an Angular Motion (2-K) operating on an Inclined Plane (2-F)


Give me a flat left wrist, a lag pressure point 
and a straight plane line, I can teach anyone to play golf



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THE HITTING CHIP

At address pre-select the amount of shaft lean for the given shot. For instance the higher the trajectory the less the lean, the lower the trajectory the more the lean.

So balance and ball position are set.

The right wrist should be bent and the left wrist flat at adjusted address. So you will begin from impact fix to minimize moving parts and to prevent you from needing or just using a float load.

From here the right elbow simply bends moving the lever assemblies away (back up and in) and then utilizing an arm throw (10-20-0) the right elbow pushes the lever assemblies down into impact. A true hitter's chip.

The right arm pitch is created again by controlling the lean of the shaft at address and opening the face. A pitch goes higher than a chip so less lean should be utilized at address. From here, for higher pitches around the green the face and the shaft must be manipulated to higher trajectory.


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THE LOB SHOT

To get the most of this we must look at 2-C-2. A "Cut shot" is any stroke using vertical hinging through impact regardless of of plane line or the preceeding wrist action. H. Kelley

10-5-D is the one I utilize more often than not. In this way I can trace a plane line which is outside in to the target line and employ a little reverse roll.

So stand open-open with the clubface at the target and swing out to in (Left) utilizing a little reverse roll and you have the cut shot.

The lob comes from ball position. For the lob use the above cut shot procedure but have the ball positioned at low point (opposite your left shoulder.) With the ball positioned here the clubhead will be moving level or parallel to the ground which will in turn take the compression off the ball.

Therefore, the cut shot and the lob shot are the same with exception of ball positioning.

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Before we get into swinging pitches and chips I need to make sure I made a very important point concerning the hitting pitch and chip. Mr. Kelley wanted us all to learn to straighten the right arm with wrist bend and every angle of wrist bend available. In other words, learn to straighten your right arm with every degree of wrist bend. This will give you the trajectory control necessary for the shot to suit your eye.


THE SWINGING PITCH

Well guys we are using number 4 for sure instead of number 1. That is the major difference. You are no longer using right arm thrust to move the lever assemblies, you are now using number 4.

The single barrel swinging pitch could be described as simply keeping your chest turning, although the chest is not number 4. A great hint here is keeping your eyes on the ball the entire flight, by doing so you will take number 4 and let centrifugal force pull the left arm and clubshaft in line without any other use of accumulators purposefully. So for the single barrel pitch keep your eyes on the flight of the ball the ENTIRE time and keep that pivot moving.

A double barrel pitch will look the same with exception to having some cocking and uncocking of the left wrist during the stroke itself. so now you are taking the club away, setting an angle between the left arm and clubshaft, swinging down and allow the left wrist to uncock under (centrifugal force will do this) and keeping your eyes on the ball. Like Ben says, what you load is what you dump.

Rember loading is not simply creating an angle, load comes from the clubhead resisting the change of direction which your pivot creates. So simply swing the club up, set an angle, change directions, and keep your eye on the ball the entire time for the the double barrel pitch.

The third accumulator of power is how you place the club in your left hand. Essentially the double barrel pitch is the same as the triple barrel pitch if the club is held under the heel pad of the hand creating that wonderful flying wedge.

Single- No wrist cock and keeping your eye on the ball the entire time, keeping your chest moving, and an absence of right arm participation. The club will lie in the palm of the left hand for true single barrel pitch or chip.

Double- Wrist cock and keeping your eye on the ball the entire time, keeping your chest moving, and an absence of right arm participation. The club will lie in the palm of the left hand for true single barrel pitch or chip.

Triple- Wrist cock and keeping your eye on the ball the entire time, keeping your chest moving, and an adsence of right arm participation. The club will lie under the heel pad of the left hand for true triple barrel pitches.

Chip Like Gay
LYNN BLAKE

The secret to playing from poor and tight lies is 'pinch'; that is, the Club shaft
leans well forward and the Hands (with the Flat Left Wrist) lead through Impact.
And the secret to 'pinch' on the short shots is to move your Pivot Center (Head
or Point-between-the-Shoulders) slightly left -- either at Address or even
during the Backstroke -- of its normal mid-stance location. This is what Brian
does, and I never get tired of watching him execute these shots.
When seeking 'severe pinch', you should additionally play the ball well back
toward the right foot. In extreme situations, Brian will actually locate the ball
outside his right toe. All this moves the Low Point of the Stroke decidedly left of
the Ball Location and produces a steep Angle of Attack that avoids the grass or
ground behind the ball.

But, when playing such a shot, here's another really important thing:
Think "Float".
On almost all pitch shots, even the lower ones, that is your objective. However
long the 'air' time (versus 'ground' time), you are 'pitching pennies' and should
seek an "underhand pitch, motion and feel" whether you are lobbing, pinching
or severely pinching the shot. Especially from poor lies, most golfers attempt to
'gouge' the ball up and out. The lie intimidates, and they subconsciously hit the
ball harder than required to get the ball airborne and out of its predicament.
Remember, the Hands are only clamps. As such, they control Clubface
alignments. They do not produce Power.

Instead of relying on Club head Acceleration (Lag Pressure) to extricate the ball,
rely on the pre-set Pivot Center / Ball Location and resulting steep Angle of
Attack (Geometry). Despite the resulting lower trajectory -- which will be higher
if you add Cut (Open Clubface and Plane Line) -- the intent to 'float' the ball
toward the flagstick will soften the shot and add to your control

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread968-5.html
Correction:
It should read...The amount of Hip Slide is dependent on swing plane. The flatter the plane the more subtle the slide is. The more upright the plane the more pronounced the slide.
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THE GOLFING MACHINE is about making thoughtful and
knowledgeable Choices leading to the ultimate goal of
having an Uncompensated Stroke Pattern.

The three all-encompassing Primary Concepts on which all details can be easily
attached as they surface - THE HINGE ACTION (2-G)
of an ANGULAR MOTION (2-K) operating on an INCLINED PLANE (2-F)

"Give me a flat left wrist, a lag pressure point
and a straight plane line, I can teach anyone to play golf"

THE SECRET OF GOLF IS NOT A POSITION - IT’S A PRESSURE!

The FLAT LEFT WRIST controls the CLUB-FACE
LAG PRESSURE
CLUB ALWAYS ON PLANE
Centered Pivot - STEADY HEAD ALWAYS CENTERED Between The Feet
EXTENSOR ACTION should feel like an ounce that produces a ton of structure.

"Never take away something a student does naturally." -- BUTCH HARMON

If you don't like a given Component Variation, recommended or otherwise, then
HOMER KELLEY would be the first to tell you to avoid it and use something
else. The reasons for 'not liking' something ranges from physical inability to
execute to psychological. There are ten trillion Strokes in TGM, roughly half
Hitting and half Swinging. Use the one(s) you like. Again quoting HOMER, "Do
whatever you like. Have fun! Enjoy the game!" HOMER KELLEY

MENTAL GAME – LYNN BLAKE

The Mental Game in Golf has three purposes:

1) In Learning, to gain over time a crystal clear understanding of the
necessary Golf Stroke Mechanics. This is the Blueprint.

2) In Practice, to translate those precision Mechanics into identifiable Feels
through the conscious programming of the subconscious mind. This is the
Process.

3) In Play, to use your imagination (born of experience) to visualize the
alternative shots for the situation at hand; weigh risk against reward,
particularly in the light of your own capabilities; and to choose among
them wisely.

Then, to employ

(1) A disciplined Pre-Shot Routine (with its own set of Visualizations and
Feels) that will program the Computer for its essential responsibility
(Execution Control)

(2) A disciplined Post-Shot Routine that will reinforce the intended Stroke;
set the stage for a successful outcome on the next Stroke; and avoid
the negative psychological and physical consequences of dwelling on
past mistakes. This is the Art.

These activities combine to produce an effective, efficient Golf Stroke.

A Golf Stroke you own.

A Golf Stroke you can "turn loose and trust".

"There is a reason why most golfers don't trust their swing. It's because their
swing (including its programming) isn't trustworthy." – YODA

Focus on the back of the ball, not the inside quadrant.
The new balls just want to go straight! –- LARRY MOWRY
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These photos are not quite at the same angle, but they are close enough to see the basics:

1. Flat Left Wrist.

2. Bent Right Wrist.

3. Both Wrists vertical (perpendicular) to the ground (horizontal plane).

4. Toe of the Clubface along the Target Line.

5. Both Arms straight at the end of the Follow-Through with Clubshaft pointing at the Line.

6. Club descends to Low Point: Ball struck first and turf afterward.

7. Feet and Knees as Anchors supporting the Hip Motion and keeping the Head Stationary.

8. Pivot Lag -- Hips leading Lagging Shoulders.

9. Right Shoulder 'well back' and 'well down' (On Plane).

10. Head Centered and Stationary.

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http://www.golfdigest.com/magazine/2009-04/trevinorules

http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-instr...s-tips#slide=1

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/a...5&d=1233430688

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread6450-2.html

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=2699

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=yZKrrj3Aq2o

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http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=4527

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread7579-2.html #18

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread5542.html


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http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...?t=1275&page=4 #34

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http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread5442-5.html #50

Where It Starts

LOREN:
The learning curriculum starts with Basic Motion, two feet back and two
feet through in learning what the arms do. It’s pivot-less, one source of
power, right shoulder or right arm, no wrist cock, zero out the roll power
accumulator, which is the angle of the shaft to the left arm.
Then from 3 feet back up to a max of right forearm parallel to the ground
is called Acquired Motion because we are acquiring more power sources,
wrist cock and roll. It’s learning what the hands and wrists do. It’s still
relatively pivot-less, little body involvement, mainly clearing the way. The
finish is follow-through, defined to be both arms straight, clubhead still
below the hands. Look at the clubhead toe attitude to see the effects of
hinge action. (Control Your Clubface). Feel a roll, feel no roll, or create a
reverse roll. At this level you can also practice punch shots and add the
finish swivel to some of those. The Finish Swivel is the bridge between
follow-through and finish. The left elbow folds down and the left forearm
swivels counter clockwise to lay the sweet spot back on plane and keep
the lag, flat left wrist, bent right. Ideally, lag is never lost.
Whenever the clubshaft, the flat left wrist, and the sweet spot get on
plane, the right wrist bend is correct for impact and should be frozen and
maintained from then on. See the flashlight drills in the Golf School
Articles, Plane series.
You won’t “flip” the left wrist if you hit down. Feel the #1 pressure
point instead of PP#3 or in addition to #3 if you’re flipping it.
Extensor Action will keep it together. Golf School article Keep the Left
Arm Straight.
Then, up past right forearm parallel to the ground and on up to Top
(right shoulder high) we’re working on pivot, the body, balance. It’s still
not an uninhibited full-out swing. It’s just Total Motion, adding Body to
Arms and Hands. All parts working, just not full-bore. Same remarks
regarding the bent right wrist.





Fix

The Fix as a studied, distinct Stroke Section (8-2) does not exist in today's Golf
World. It does, however, exist to one degree or another in almost every good
player and is brought to an art form with the great players.
For example, the #1 and #2 Impact Alignments are the Flat, Level and Vertical
Left Wrist and its complement, the Bent, Level and Vertical Right Wrist.
Rounding out the Big Three is the On Plane Right Forearm and Clubshaft. Do
the great players assume these alignments in an Impact Fix? Maybe not. But,
they know exactly what these alignments are and how they feel, and they often
assume them at times you might least expect. The next time you see the Bobby
Jones videos, look carefully as you see him standing around talking to the gang
with his Hands and Club waist high. You will see his Left Wrist Flat, Level and
Vertical; his Right Wrist Bent, Level and Vertical; and his Right Forearm and Club
shaft On Plane.
Now, to be sure, it's on a horizontal plane -- not an inclined plane -- but the
Impact Alignments are clearly in place and their Feel established. This is the
sole purpose of Impact Fix, and when you've got it...you've got it. All that
remains to be done is replicate that Feel on the Inclined Plane of Motion.
Watch Sam Snead as he lectures to the camera, and you will see the identical
Impact Alignments in place. Chi Chi sets his Grip and Impact Alignments while
behind the Ball and looking down the Target Line. Except for an over-the-Topof-
the Ball Waggle, they never change until the Club leaves the Back of the Ball.
Watch any group of Tour players as they wait on a Tee. You'll see Flat Left
Wrists and #3 Accumulator Rolls, Right Forearm Tracings and even Downstroke
Waggles.
Lee Trevino's Address Routine is pure artistry. Away from the Ball, he rehearses
the Total Motion with a Practice Swing. He then walks into the Ball with the Club
shaft in the Cup of the Right Hand and with the Shaft running up his On Plane
Right Forearm. As his Feet settle in to their accustomed positions, he soles the
Club with the Ball just off its toe. His Left Wrist joins the fun in its Flat, Level
and Vertical Position (10-2-B Grip). His Flying Wedges align to the Ball and Line
in a choreographed sequence worthy of a Fred Astaire dance routine.
He lasers in on the Plane Line. He Waggles. His lower body moves into its
Impact Alignment as his Left Foot tap, tap, taps. At the last instant, he Turns his
Left Hand on the Grip -- he just made it a 10-2-D -- Forward Presses and with
his Right Forearm takes the Club immediately Up, In and Back on an Open-
Open Plane Line. And then, almost always, he stripes it. This may not be the
'academic' version of Impact Fix, but it's Lee Trevino's, and a glance at the
Record Book proves that it works. Big time.
No, the Tour players don't fit neatly into Section 8-2, Impact Fix. But you can
bet your boots its function has been met:
They know Impact.
They Feel Impact.
They live for Impact.
It's what they do.
At Impact Fix:
1) Given a specific Golf Club length and Ball Location on the Plane,
e.g., on a tee or on the ground;
2) With the Left Wrist Flat, Level -- remember, this is a 'High Hands'
partially Uncocked Condition per 4-B-1 -- and Vertical;
3) With Extensor Action applied to the Left Arm and Club shaft
through the #3 Pressure Point establishing the Flying Wedge
Alignments; and with...
4) The Stationary Head Position established by the desired Knee Flex
and Waist Bend (standing to the Ball 'in halves' with as straight a
Spine -- the body's backbone that does not include the Neck (that
joins the Head and Body)

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I don't know what to think about this guy.. "one way" for just every move in the swing seems too restrictive... on the other hand some of the corrections he suggests to Elk seem right.. He's a TGM long time student.
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MacDonald exercises take care of the left knee movement in the start up/backstroke. But it doesn't deal much with the downstroke. But that is where this movement in the video comes in - to reverse what has happened in the start up?
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