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Old 02-14-2008, 05:57 PM
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whomever as not received their tapes as of yet please email me.......................hjacknicklaus@gmail.com

i want to check on them immediately

also please send me your real name and address

if you were not part of first group

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as soon as i get 9......i will ask for payment for second chance edition

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I think Amencorner hit the nail on the head by calling TGM instructors; "TGM interpreters". That is exactly what this video series is: Tomasello's interpretaion of TGM.

I do have a question though; in video 5 or 6 where he is talking about power accumulators. He says accumulator #3 is a funtion of the straightening right arm. One of the students says: "wasn't the right arm accumulator #1? To which he replies: "it's the right arm that drives #3." But wouldn't a person with only his left arm still have acc. #3? Am I missing something here?
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I do have a question though; in video 5 or 6 where he is talking about power accumulators. He says accumulator #3 is a funtion of the straightening right arm. One of the students says: "wasn't the right arm accumulator #1? To which he replies: "it's the right arm that drives #3." But wouldn't a person with only his left arm still have acc. #3? Am I missing something here?
Via Centrifugal Force or Muscular Thrust, the Right Elbow drives the Left Arm (through Pressure Point #1) and the Clubshaft (through Pressure Point #3).

So . . .

The Right Arm closes the 'gate', i.e., the Lever Assembly (the Left Arm and Club) swinging about its Left Shoulder Center.

If, in an amputee situation, the Right Arm is unavailable, then only Centrifugal Force (generated by the Body Rotor and the Left Arm's 'blast off' by the Pivot) can drive the Lever Assembly (with or without its #3 Angle) through Impact.

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ahh, light bulb moment. Swingers with a deep Pitch Elbow location don't have the same amount of right forearm 'corkscrew' effect that a Punch Elbow location provides.
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ahh, light bulb moment. Swingers with a deep Pitch Elbow location don't have the same amount of right forearm 'corkscrew' effect that a Punch Elbow location provides.
Actually, they have more.



From the Swinger's Pitch Elbow ('down and in the front') and with the Right Wrist Bent and palm 'up' to Plane, the Right Forearm Flying Wedge will have further to Rotate ('corkscrew' to its On Plane Finish Swivel Condition) than with the Punch Basic Stroke (Elbow at the side) and the Wrists vertical to the Plane.
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Old 02-15-2008, 09:03 PM
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Thank you Mr. Blake for answering my question. That is what I love about this site; open discussion and clear answers, no my way or the highway type attitude.

Delawaregolf: I think I owe you an apology, It seems like forever you have been talking about Tomasello teaching or at least having the notes from the 7th edition all the way back then. I never really bought into that for some reason, I don't really know why. Well I just watched the first half of video 7 tonight and low and behold Tomasello mentions one of the changes to be made in the swinging pattern for the 7th edition, you were right.

For anyone on the fence about these DVD's, don't be, they are great and packed full of info. I have a tough time getting through them because every 20 min I am pausing the video to pick up a club and take a few swings.
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Thank you Mr. Blake for answering my question. That is what I love about this site; open discussion and clear answers, no my way or the highway type attitude.

Delawaregolf: I think I owe you an apology, It seems like forever you have been talking about Tomasello teaching or at least having the notes from the 7th edition all the way back then. I never really bought into that for some reason, I don't really know why. Well I just watched the first half of video 7 tonight and low and behold Tomasello mentions one of the changes to be made in the swinging pattern for the 7th edition, you were right.

For anyone on the fence about these DVD's, don't be, they are great and packed full of info. I have a tough time getting through them because every 20 min I am pausing the video to pick up a club and take a few swings.

Excellent....yes, when I studied with Tommy (10/1993)....sitting at his desk discussing how/why the number of pages of TGM had grown from approximately 140 pages in the 1st edition to the 240 pages in the 6th edition....Tommy said, I have a copy of the 7th edition too. Trying to simplify TGM took a more detailed explanation. Frickin hundred pages more!!!

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I think Amencorner hit the nail on the head by calling TGM instructors; "TGM interpreters". That is exactly what this video series is: Tomasello's interpretaion of TGM.

I do have a question though; in video 5 or 6 where he is talking about power accumulators. He says accumulator #3 is a funtion of the straightening right arm. One of the students says: "wasn't the right arm accumulator #1? To which he replies: "it's the right arm that drives #3." But wouldn't a person with only his left arm still have acc. #3? Am I missing something here?

Don't agree...I believe Tommy was dependent on Homer's explanation and not teaching from his own interpretation. No WAY. In no way did I or do I feel today that Tommy was putting his own spin on TGM.

You won't hear from me until late Sunday....off with my babe to Atlantic City.

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Via Centrifugal Force or Muscular Thrust, the Right Elbow drives the Left Arm (through Pressure Point #1) and the Clubshaft (through Pressure Point #3).

So . . .

The Right Arm closes the 'gate', i.e., the Lever Assembly (the Left Arm and Club) swinging about its Left Shoulder Center.

If, in an amputee situation, the Right Arm is unavailable, then only Centrifugal Force (generated by the Body Rotor and the Left Arm's 'blast off' by the Pivot) can drive the Lever Assembly (with or without its #3 Angle) through Impact.

I've seen almost everything.

One of my students is a double amputee (both legs from the knee down). Yoda has seen him in action, and had no idea that he was missing both legs, since he was busting drives about 240 yards.

Another student had polio as a child. He's left handed, as his right arm is about six inches shorter than his left. So, I made him a club that was six inches longer than standard and had two grips. It looks like a hockey stick. He's remarkable and has the greatest time playing golf with his sons. His youngest son is one of my rising stars.

I’ve had two guys that play with one arm. The first suffered a stroke, and his right side of his body was paralyzed. He played golf right handed, but his left arm was the only one that worked. He regained some mobility in the right leg and could walk with a brace. But, he wore a wind breaker, everyday, that had holes cut in the pockets. He would slide his right arm in the pockets, wearing it like a sling. He hit the ball perfectly straight, but never hit it very far. He added distance by shortening the release interval, but it's weaker than having the trail arm to use.

My most recent student has finished second in the National Amputee Championship. He's missing the entire left arm and plays right handed. He generates plenty of clubhead speed, but suffers when his Start Down is too fast. He loses the ability to control the clubface as soon as he gets fast.

The guys are a lot of fun, and everyone has a great sense of humor. I heard one of the contestants was asked by a reporter at the National Championship, "what's the best way to get into the National Amputee Championship?" The man was missing an arm. And, he said with an English accent and a very dry wit, "purchase a motor bike."
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