I have put this on before that I got from a friend in Atlanta... "Is the horse PULLING the wagon, or PUSHING against the collar?" "You would have to ask the horse."
the push or pull question I was asking stemmed from the fact that the bent right wrist retained its bent appearance well beyond low point - ie. the hands were moving up but wrist was still bent...
So is that possible with a pull??
(The connection to the photos is down...maybe getty images got annoyed....sorry but i did reference them and provide a link to their website....)
I have put this on before that I got from a friend in Atlanta... "Is the horse PULLING the wagon, or PUSHING against the collar?" "You would have to ask the horse."
Lagster,
I agree with you completely here that is the same thing I've been taught by several friends in Atlanta as well
However Neil stated he is pulling.
Golfbulldog,
In regards to your post....yes the right wrist can be bent well beyond low point...if they maintain their flying wedges.
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I have put this on before that I got from a friend in Atlanta... "Is the horse PULLING the wagon, or PUSHING against the collar?" "You would have to ask the horse."
Lagster,
Let's admit that, that " friend" is Bucket - not the sharpest tool in the chest!
Pull is towards you and Push is away from you. Doesn't matter if I'm behind the wagon Pushing it or behind the collar Pushing it- their both pushes. Since in your example, the horse is in front of the Wagon and essentially bringing the wagon towards the horse -the horse is pulling the wagon. Assuming the horse is facing forward in the same direction as the wagon is moving- then he'll be pushing on the collar while pulling the wagon. If he turns around and grabs the collar with his teeth- then the horse would be pulling the wagon and pulling the collar. It's all in the context of what direction the mover is moving or trying to move an object in relation to the moving entity.
I tried this experiment last night- I took my Jeep and tied a 20 foot rope to the bumper. I then tied the rope around a passed out Bucket (I'm not going into detail how he ended up that way) and I Pushed the Jeep which Pulled Bucket across the road. Here's the good part- I didn't know how the 2nd half of the experiment would work but sure enough when the Jeep went over the edge of the cliff- it Pulled Bucket down with it. Unfortunately, he survived- Hey, I'll try again next week!
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Lagster,
Let's admit that, that " friend" is Bucket - not the sharpest tool in the chest!
Pull is towards you and Push is away from you. Doesn't matter if I'm behind the wagon Pushing it or behind the collar Pushing it- their both pushes. Since in your example, the horse is in front of the Wagon and essentially bringing the wagon towards the horse -the horse is pulling the wagon. Assuming the horse is facing forward in the same direction as the wagon is moving- then he'll be pushing on the collar while pulling the wagon. If he turns around and grabs the collar with his teeth- then the horse would be pulling the wagon and pulling the collar. It's all in the context of what direction the mover is moving or trying to move an object in relation to the moving entity.
I tried this experiment last night- I took my Jeep and tied a 20 foot rope to the bumper. I then tied the rope around a passed out Bucket (I'm not going into detail how he ended up that way) and I Pushed the Jeep which Pulled Bucket across the road. Here's the good part- I didn't know how the 2nd half of the experiment would work but sure enough when the Jeep went over the edge of the cliff- it Pulled Bucket down with it. Unfortunately, he survived- Hey, I'll try again next week!
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Mikey . . . did you have to resurface so close to Christmas.
You're a vile one, Mr. Grinch.
You have termites in your smile.
You have all the tender sweetness
Of a seasick crocodile.
Mr. Grinch.
Given the choice between the two of you
I'd take the seasick crockodile.
You're a foul one, Mr. Grinch.
You're a nasty, wasty skunk.
Your heart is full of unwashed socks
Your soul is full of gunk.
Mr. Grinch.
When will you go back under your rock and stop playing your Twisted Sister 8-track at full blast in old folk homes parking lots while eating cheetoz nekkid and reading Sargent Fury comic books with boogerz stuck to the pages?
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Mikey . . . did you have to resurface so close to Christmas.
You're a vile one, Mr. Grinch.
You have termites in your smile.
You have all the tender sweetness
Of a seasick crocodile.
Mr. Grinch.
Given the choice between the two of you
I'd take the seasick crockodile.
You're a foul one, Mr. Grinch.
You're a nasty, wasty skunk.
Your heart is full of unwashed socks
Your soul is full of gunk.
Mr. Grinch.
When will you go back under your rock and stop playing your Twisted Sister 8-track at full blast in old folk homes parking lots while eating cheetoz nekkid and reading Sargent Fury comic books with boogerz stuck to the pages?
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How do you know from the picture in the bunker that he is pulling???
Sorting Through the Instructor's Textbook.
B-Ray
B Ray ,
Just my opinion.Looking at the amount of hip rotation.Perhaps I should have said "he started by pulling".
I certainly think he is swinging-hence the "pull". But since he is in the follow through ,is he still pulling or has CF taken over?
Or is he pushing? Just my opinion
Cheers B Ray
Lagster,
Let's admit that, that " friend" is Bucket - not the sharpest tool in the chest!
Pull is towards you and Push is away from you. Doesn't matter if I'm behind the wagon Pushing it or behind the collar Pushing it- their both pushes. Since in your example, the horse is in front of the Wagon and essentially bringing the wagon towards the horse -the horse is pulling the wagon. Assuming the horse is facing forward in the same direction as the wagon is moving- then he'll be pushing on the collar while pulling the wagon. If he turns around and grabs the collar with his teeth- then the horse would be pulling the wagon and pulling the collar. It's all in the context of what direction the mover is moving or trying to move an object in relation to the moving entity.
I tried this experiment last night- I took my Jeep and tied a 20 foot rope to the bumper. I then tied the rope around a passed out Bucket (I'm not going into detail how he ended up that way) and I Pushed the Jeep which Pulled Bucket across the road. Here's the good part- I didn't know how the 2nd half of the experiment would work but sure enough when the Jeep went over the edge of the cliff- it Pulled Bucket down with it. Unfortunately, he survived- Hey, I'll try again next week!
Mike O ,
Lets try that again -you push your Jeep,Bucket tied to the rope ,I will PULL my Jeep(using a rope tied to the front hitch tug o war style).We can then tie another rope to Bucket and see who gets the biggest piece(hopefully you).
But i promise I will Pull as hard as I can -by Pushing against the ground.
If I even get a small piece of Bucket you can have it anyway!
Neil,
I knew I could count on you! I'll drive the El Ranchero over and we'll discuss the details- but this time be ready! Remember last time - I drive 14 hours and when I show up you are looking in the mirror at your golf swing- haven't even gone to home depot for the rope and cement!!!
Oh Ya- "But i promise I will Pull as hard as I can -by Pushing against the ground." Nice job grasshopper!
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