Is this guy pushing or pulling ?
 

Apology if i am doing wrong re. legal aspects but these are images from Getty Images website.... http://www.gettyimages.com/Home.aspx...to which I have no link.

First photo really looks like pulling...everything is in line for pulling (forearm etc)...



Now look at this one:-



To get the right wrist this bent long after lowpoint...is that a result of the force on the clubhead from the sand...ie. delaying the clubhead as the hands move forward...or is there an element of right arm active thrust that gives this appearance...

The last photo is actualy reproduced on the cover of the book(novel/non-fiction) "The Match"...just read it...good fun...nice one for the fireside for Christmas!

Dawgiedawg . . . looks like the result of a KARATE CHOP to me ???

Pull + push
 

He pushs with the right while pulling with the left. Smart, very smart.:salut: Anybody could.

bts,

Where do you draw the line between hitting and swinging to prevent an automatic angled hinge (hitting) as opposed to a free-wheeling horizontal hinge (swinging)?

If you propose doing both you are over-riding CF with the push and thereby getting angled hinging. Are you proposing a manipulated swing or is your definition of pushing simply extensor action?

Thanks,

Is the bottom image a full swing or a bunker shot where he's hitting the sand first???

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B-Ray

bunker shot - but looks like a full swing fairway bunker shot.

It's important to know what he was actually doing here......I'm not positive it was a fairway bunker which makes it hard to comment on.

There are players who swing (pull) full swing, but hit or push bunker shots and short game shots....this may be what Hogan was doing.

No matter what he was doing the alignments are solid.

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B-Ray

He is pulling :eyes:

Bagger,

Sorry to intrude on this thread but I have similar sensations. If my body is pulling (rotation) and my right is pushing (feel) do I not have two forces working in the same direction?

I remember working with a martial artist one time and he said that in order to throw a powerful punch with the right arm you must pull the left back just as hard. This dual motion gave more "snap" to the punch and required very little motion.

It may be just extensor action, or it may be an active right arm thrust adding to the "blast off". Either way I do not think we always need to always put angled with hitting and horizontal with swinging. The players feel will tend to determine what is occuring.

Anyway, as a plane flattens angled hinging moves more to the horizontal, and as it steepens it approaches more vertical. Obviously Hogan was flatter than most so it could be a possibility that the active right arm he so loved actually produced an angled hinge to fight off the hook. I do not know if Mr. Hogan knew if he was hitting or swinging, I do not think he would care. From what I have studied about him, he simply wanted to hit the ball as hard as he could without the hook. Just a thought.

Neil,

How do you know from the picture in the bunker that he is pulling???

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B-Ray