You left us hanging....what starts the downswing in 3 barrel hitting?....then tell us the difference between 3 barrel and 4 barrel hitting???
DG
Yoda,
Please write out the stroke components for a 3 barrel hit and a 4 barrel hit!!! If 12-1-0 represents what you teach as a 3 barrel hit, then just show us the whole 4 barrel hitting pattern or what components change between the two procedures.
The GOLFER... naturally....and his/her right forearm!!! The proceeding action would be birth from his or her mother and father....just kidding (Joe, we should make this a comedy routine).
DG
This is DG's last answer to my question of what causes the action of the right forearm which DG claims that both the right shoulder and the right tricep RESPOND to!
It's the GOLFER and before this answer, the answer was simply MAGIC!
And so there it is - DG doesn't give a straight answer, either because he can't or won't.
Here's what I can say about the so-called TT right arm swing:
1) Tomasello is teaching a 3-barrel inert left arm swinging procedure - at least he says it's a swing, and it looks like it when he makes an actual pass at the ball. He uses standard wrist action and emphasizes keeping the left hip moving through impact to keep the left wrist from bending. When he demos the swing without hitting a ball, he gets to the delivery position and forcefully extends his right arm down and out with the right tricep, saying "HIT IT HIT IT HIT IT", but I don't think he does this when he actually hits a ball. But even if he does, this is not a right arm swing, but rather a hit or a swit. This right arm extension is found in all TGM patterns - it is a result of CF in a swing and intentionally done in a hit(which TT calls a "punch"). I don't see anywhere on the video where he even mentions a "right arm swing".
2) We don't know what DG is doing because he won't answer my question.
We are making some progress here even though we have some terminology issues to resolve. Just so everyone is aware, I have my finger on the lock thread key, so I'm hoping cool heads prevail and we can continue seeking enlightenment!
Let's keep in mind, the name of this thread is referencing Homers definition of the Right Arm Swing. We are attempting to reconcile Mr. Tomasello's pattern(s) with it. Thus far, there doesn't appear to be a correlation, but we will present more evidence with a new video soon.
We are making some progress here even though we have some terminology issues to resolve. Just so everyone is aware, I have my finger on the lock thread key, so I'm hoping cool heads prevail and we can continue seeking enlightenment!
Let's keep in mind, the name of this thread is referencing Homers definition of the Right Arm Swing. We are attempting to reconcile Mr. Tomasello's pattern(s) with it. Thus far, there doesn't appear to be a correlation, but we will present more evidence with a new video soon.
Thanks Guys,
Bagger
Bagger,
I bet you can image I'm holding back big time at this point...
Joe,
My suggestion at this point is for you to go back through the ENTIRE thread re-read each post....and see if you can come up with the answer...if that doesn't help, I would go through the ENTIRE Tomasello series (take the chapters in order) and see if that helps, if not, I would stop the pain by forgetting about the right arm swing...
Sorry for the confusion. Maybe the next Tomasello video (The May 1992 tape) will help...
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 10-08-2005 at 05:47 PM.
...i think the point of mj's question is that the muscles of the right forearm can't act on the right forearm to produce the down plane motion that DG is describing...therefore some other body part's muscle(s) must do it, even if what DG senses are focusing on is the right forearm movement...from my pov it doesn't matter if one feels like the forearm moves the rest or the rest moves the forearm as long as the ball goes where one wants it to...cheers!
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