If the right elbow needs to be in front of the ball with the right arm swing, then how was i hitting shots last night?
I don't understand what you wrote above. I was messing around with the swing Tomasello describes in his video and i was using a 5 iron. Ball was posistioned just inside myleft heel. I highly doubt my right elbow got past the ball before i hit the shot.
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Right Elbow is Swing Center for the Right Arm Swing by definition. So Low Point is directly beneth it. There should be no debate about that I hope! Just Homer's definition. End of story.
So if your Ball was struck before Low Point last night, and your Right Elbow didn't get past the Ball, then whatever you're doing, it ain't a Right Arm Swing! So don't be confused!
You are absolutely right here. This is an extreme elbow position, but is the ONLY way to both pull the shaft longitudinally AND hit the ball before low point using the right arm. This effectively rules out right arm swinging a driver because of potential injury. Right arm Swinging with an elbow in bat position isn't possible.
I'm not here to debate and/or argue about the swinging action with right arm acceleration.....all I know is it produces excellent golf shots (Driver to lob wedge) just like Mr. Tomasello indicates in his 1991 Golf Illustrated interview . When Lynn and the gang get things back up and running.....I believe you will be entertained by Mr. Tomasello's demonstration and comments about this highly controversial golf stroke motion/pattern….what ever it’s called!!!! I can tell you one thing….the full stroke that he is demonstrating is NO HITTING STROKE.
We sincerely thank you for asking us to share the upcoming video. As soon as we get the site back up, I'll transfer it to the computer and get it loaded on the site.
This is all about information sharing and learning. We are giving the Right Arm Swing it's full attention here and I hope we draw out all of it's finer details.
Put your mind in your Right Forearm, keep your Head stationary, wind up and let it happen.
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Yoda
I worked with TT more than anybody on this forum and the above is the crux of what he taught. Right arm swing? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!!!!! In Tom's swinging procedure, the left shoulder was the center of the swing...NOT THE RIGHT ELBOW!!!! His mantra was...withdraw the right hip, fold the right arm, straighten the right arm, withdraw the left hip. The right elbow NEVER was stressed as the center of the stroke...NEVER!!! In fact, the last paragraph on page 108, sixth edition, where referring to the right arm swing, Tom had me highlight it and bracket it with the words "FORGET IT".
Tom was a great ambassador of TGM and I will be eternally grateful for exposing me to such gems as the MOTIONLESS right wrist, the flying wedges, and the magic of the right forearm. He was light years ahead of most mainstream teaching then and NOW. However, that being said, I can tell you that his grasp of TGM paled in comparison to Lynn's.
With respect to Delaware, I worked with Tom before Dave's time with him, and perhaps he changed, but I doubt it strongly. I played a lot of golf with Tom and I know where he was mentally. (He was a great ball striker by the way!) Right arm participation is just as Yoda described in his analogy of the children throwing the ball... so beautifully simple. But, having the right elbow as the center of tyhe stroke makes little sense given the amount of radius power that is lost and the control that is sacrificed by the the diminished role of the flat left wrist. No offense meant, but I think that I provide an informed perspective.
Thanks for sharing your personal experience with TT. Your post has certainly cleared up a lot regarding TT/Right Arm Swing for me, and I'm sure it has for others too who hasn't had the privilege of being taught personally by TT.
I hope you will write more posts on TT and G.O.L.F. in the future!
Like I've been saying Yoda.....just play the TAPE!!!
Eddie....do you use the motion that you described above today? It sounds like you have watched the Australia video!!!
I would have to believe the highlighting of section 7-19 with the phrase "FORGET IT" from Tomasello was in reference to elbow injury, not right arm acceleration...
I'll respond more later....I have a meeting to attend to.
Withdrawing the right hip at the beginning of the backswing would be mean Tomasello promoted standard hip action versus delayed hip action....If one uses Standard Hip Action, the golfer will achieve an Angled Delivery Path which uses an elbow plane angle.....if you watch Tomasello swing a golf club in the Australia video and the May 1992 video...Tomasello is swinging on a Straight Line Delivery Path and a Turned Shoulder Plane angle.....and he used a right forearm takeaway....in the May 1992 video he also references the term a right arm pickup.....sounds like some confusion in regards to component variations!!!
EC what would you call the action of straightening the right arm??? In the Tomasello swing that is not being initiated from pivot thrust!!!
Eddie Cox -- From The Pinehurst Sandhills -- The Real Deal
Originally Posted by EC
I worked with TT more than anybody on this forum and the above is the crux of what he taught. Right arm swing? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!!!!! In Tom's swinging procedure, the left shoulder was the center of the swing...NOT THE RIGHT ELBOW!!!! His mantra was...withdraw the right hip, fold the right arm, straighten the right arm, withdraw the left hip. The right elbow NEVER was stressed as the center of the stroke...NEVER!!! In fact, the last paragraph on page 108, sixth edition, where referring to the right arm swing, Tom had me highlight it and bracket it with the words "FORGET IT".
Tom was a great ambassador of TGM and I will be eternally grateful for exposing me to such gems as the MOTIONLESS right wrist, the flying wedges, and the magic of the right forearm. He was light years ahead of most mainstream teaching then and NOW. However, that being said, I can tell you that his grasp of TGM paled in comparison to Lynn's.
With respect to Delaware, I worked with Tom before Dave's time with him, and perhaps he changed, but I doubt it strongly. I played a lot of golf with Tom and I know where he was mentally. (He was a great ball striker by the way!) Right arm participation is just as Yoda described in his analogy of the children throwing the ball... so beautifully simple. But, having the right elbow as the center of tyhe stroke makes little sense given the amount of radius power that is lost and the control that is sacrificed by the the diminished role of the flat left wrist. No offense meant, but I think that I provide an informed perspective.
EC
Thank you, Eddie, for this wonderful, personal, authoritative post.
In many ways on this site, we are documenting the evolution of Authorized Instruction in The Golfing Machine. Your contributions as an Instructor, Player and Educator on this site are considerable.
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