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Old 03-14-2013, 07:26 AM
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There is a difference between EA and the #1 PP.

With EA, the Right Arm straightens as it would wile performing a Reverse Arm Curl, where the Palm of the Right Hand is facing you as triceps pressure is applied. As the right hand lowers, its path is an Arc, and the hand moves away from the right shoulder with a Stationary Elbow until the Right Arm is Straight. #1 PP is more like a Push-up.

The difference is important.
When using the #1 PP, the Right Hand moves away from the Shoulder in a straight line and the Elbow moves in-line with the Hand Path and Stationary Right Shoulder. This causes a straight Right Arm.

Both Actions are performed with the Inside of the Right Wrist Visible to the eye from Start-up to Both Arms Straight. And, its easy to feel that both Actions are very different and can be performed simultaneously for the "Hitter".

So, EA doesn't move the Right Elbow while the #1 PP does. The primary purpose of EA to control the Right Elbow.
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There is a difference between EA and the #1 PP.

With EA, the Right Arm straightens as it would wile performing a Reverse Arm Curl, where the Palm of the Right Hand is facing you as triceps pressure is applied. As the right hand lowers, its path is an Arc, and the hand moves away from the right shoulder with a Stationary Elbow until the Right Arm is Straight. #1 PP is more like a Push-up.

The difference is important.
When using the #1 PP, the Right Hand moves away from the Shoulder in a straight line and the Elbow moves in-line with the Hand Path and Stationary Right Shoulder. This causes a straight Right Arm.

Both Actions are performed with the Inside of the Right Wrist Visible to the eye from Start-up to Both Arms Straight. And, its easy to feel that both Actions are very different and can be performed simultaneously for the "Hitter".

So, EA doesn't move the Right Elbow while the #1 PP does. The primary purpose of EA to control the Right Elbow.
Interesting!

I think ( but am not sure) That U Have it the "right way".

I found 2 ways to apply EA but the intuitive method is wrong and will do more harm than good. so, it is probably 60-40 that it will be applied wrong and will be abandoned.

I tried a discussion here about 2+ years ago but feel as though I got my head chopped off so I won't go there again.

BUT

If U have it right your explanations can be of great value for understanding proper EA application.

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Old 03-15-2013, 07:51 AM
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Extensor Action is Below Plane through-out the Stroke.

#1 Accumulator is On-Plane.

What Alignment is needed to allow this?

Both use Triceps Muscle but only when the Flying Wedges are Aligned at 90 degrees can you have both Actions. I think this is an important point.

The 90 degree Wedge Alignment allows the Right Forearm Wedge to remain at Right Angles to the Left Arm Plane while the Clubshaft is On-Plane. The Clubshaft is on Both Planes Simultaneously.

This needs the the "Inside" of the Right Wrist to be visible (Facing you) through-out the the Swing from the End of Start-up to Follow-through.

Most Pros include this Alignment from the Top and during the Downstroke but HK uses the Right Forearm Take-away so the Alignment is available in Both Directions.
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Old 03-15-2013, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Extensor Action is Below Plane through-out the Stroke.

#1 Accumulator is On-Plane.

What Alignment is needed to allow this?

Both use Triceps Muscle but only when the Flying Wedges are Aligned at 90 degrees can you have both Actions. I think this is an important point.

The 90 degree Wedge Alignment allows the Right Forearm Wedge to remain at Right Angles to the Left Arm Plane while the Clubshaft is On-Plane. The Clubshaft is on Both Planes Simultaneously.

This needs the the "Inside" of the Right Wrist to be visible (Facing you) through-out the the Swing from the End of Start-up to Follow-through.

Most Pros include this Alignment from the Top and during the Downstroke but HK uses the Right Forearm Take-away so the Alignment is available in Both Directions.
Now I'm not sure where you fit.


2 questions- which is more like EA? A or B?

1. opening a door- door opens out and knob is on the right:

A. turn knob counterclockwise and push?
B. Turn knob clockwise and push?

2. Pushing away and getting up from your desk:

A. palm on edge and fingers UNDER edge?
B palm on edge and fingers on TOP of desk?

??? what is your opinion? Anyone else have answers?


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Old 03-15-2013, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by HungryBear View Post
Now I'm not sure where you fit.


2 questions- which is more like EA? A or B?

1. opening a door- door opens out and knob is on the right:

A. turn knob counterclockwise and push?
B. Turn knob clockwise and push?

2. Pushing away and getting up from your desk:

A. palm on edge and fingers UNDER edge?
B palm on edge and fingers on TOP of desk?

??? what is your opinion? Anyone else have answers?


HB
Those are all examples of Accumulator #1
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Old 03-15-2013, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Those are all examples of Accumulator #1
Just the EA -

EA is 6-B-1-D, 6-B-1-subtopic - first power accumulator (#1) sub topic D.

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