Can U start this answer with the Re. post you mention?
I could send it to you via pm if you want. The Yoda post I alluded to throws some concepts around that we're not ready for . One in particular that only a very few will be able to explain for us. We will need help . Im hoping Yoda , Ted , Mike O. and the like (present company not excluded) can jump in and straighten a few things out for us.
I wanna get us all speaking the same lingo , seeing the geometry in same way IF THATS POSSIBLE. * We no doubt will have to agree to disagree on things as we move forward. *But lets move forward.*
This thread could get stalled and never restart ... easily . So I'm trying take a linear approach to its progression. Its a linear approach to the circular/angular nature of the clubheads orbit .... geometry puns are terrible. Still havent defined a lot of concepts necessary to the understanding of the Geometry of the Circle as it relates to shot shaping. Grip Rotation , Hook Face , Plane LIne Rotation, Stance Line vs Plane LIne etc etc etc .
I could send it to you via pm if you want. The Yoda post I alluded to throws some concepts around that we're not ready for . One in particular that only a very few will be able to explain for us. We will need help . Im hoping Yoda , Ted , Mike O. and the like (present company not excluded) can jump in and straighten a few things out for us.
I wanna get us all speaking the same lingo , seeing the geometry in same way IF THATS POSSIBLE. * We no doubt will have to agree to disagree on things as we move forward. *But lets move forward.*
This thread could get stalled and never restart ... easily . So I'm trying take a linear approach to its progression. Its a linear approach to the circular/angular nature of the clubheads orbit .... geometry puns are terrible. Still havent defined a lot of concepts necessary to the understanding of the Geometry of the Circle as it relates to shot shaping. Grip Rotation , Hook Face , Plane LIne Rotation, Stance Line vs Plane LIne etc etc etc .
Here's something I drew a while back with another intention in mind. For this discussion (how to shape your shots) lets just acknowledge how the circle looks different from different perspectives. How the players view of the circle becomes more circular as the plane angle lowers.
Edit : And also acknowledge how the actual path of the clubhead along its circular orbit has more OUT to it for flatter plane angles.
Guys feel free to correct this where it needs to be corrected. Blunders or whatever. The curves are hand drawn and need to be improved for starters.
Imagine looking at this clubhead path from down the line. It wouldnt be flat, no. Close ish though, flatter than most. Plane angle shifting being responsible to large measure . Hogan got a little laid off at times .... some say for a purpose . This was a topic of discussion in Homers GSEM class in 1982. But I digress....
Would this non flatness of an ultimate golfers actual clubhead orbit when viewed from DTL render the flat as a pancake Geometry of the Circle mode of examination irrelevant? IMO no!
I love this animation . Imagine if you looked at a [B]tracer line[/b] of the animations clubhead travel through 3 dimensional space! It'd be unlikely to attribute its Picasso like meanderings to being the product of circle laying flat on an inclined plane , which is shifting up and down (variety of manners possible this is but one). But , Homer and most likely others ahead of his time did.
Imagine looking at this clubhead path from down the line. It wouldnt be flat, no. Close ish though, flatter than most. Plane angle shifting being responsible to large measure . Hogan got a little laid off at times .... some say for a purpose . This was a topic of discussion in Homers GSEM class in 1982. But I digress....
Would this non flatness of an ultimate golfers actual clubhead orbit when viewed from DTL render the flat as a pancake Geometry of the Circle mode of examination irrelevant? IMO no!
I love this animation . Imagine if you looked at a [B]tracer line[/b] of the animations clubhead travel through 3 dimensional space! It'd be unlikely to attribute its Picasso like meanderings to being the product of circle laying flat on an inclined plane , which is shifting up and down (variety of manners possible this is but one). But , Homer and most likely others ahead of his time did.
Nice . There's a thread around here somewhere where Luke is talking about how almost impossible it is see where a players plane line really is pointing when looking at videos in a conventional manner. Most guys assume the stance line to be an indicator etc ... That just doesnt cut it. Luke then traced the clubhead path with little dots , we were looking down the line of course, and you could see the direction the club head was travelling in a lot better. Not as good as radar or anything but way better than trying to find a plane line when looking at a golfer through the vagaries of a camera lens. The nature of the lens changes things a lot too. Parallel lines start to look more divergent as you go to lens which are wider than what the human eye sees etc . I think . Any camera men out there? What the human eye said to be similar to 50 mm film lens? Film lenses being different than video maybe? I dunno.
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