I think we all agree that Hinging requires Rhythm of the Primary Lever
For power Id agree ... but what about the old hands only putting style? What about that in concert with Vertical Hinging , intentional Steering. That would be one fine method to putt with........Billy Casper could roll that thing.
Swinging from the wrists is an effective way of shortening the radius... sort of like the grand daddy of gripping down. Its physics again as employed by the thinking mans golfer, or by those fortunate enough to just stumble upon it, like Seve did. He'd grip down to the metal and swing from the wrists for a short trap shot, cross line with a wide open club face and Vertcal Hinging.
You could manipulate any Hinge Action while swinging from the wrists, no? But agreed for normal shots the Hinge Action is not a thing done with the Hands actively..... though it may seem like should be at first. Got to get past that.
TGM short shots are not a to be confused with Basic and Acquired which are stepping stones or a curriculum to an effective Total Motion. Compressed short shots leading to compressed long shots. Beautiful stuff. There are times when they are useful short shot methods yes, often. But ideally you have other options when intentional compression leakage is a better way to go.
Homer had nothing against intentional steering for short shots.
For power Id agree ... but what about the old hands only putting style? What about that in concert with Vertical Hinging , intentional Steering. That would be one fine method to putt with........Billy Casper could roll that thing.
Swinging from the wrists is an effective way of shortening the radius... sort of like the grand daddy of gripping down. Its physics again as employed by the thinking mans golfer, or by those fortunate enough to just stumble upon it, like Seve did. He'd grip down to the metal and swing from the wrists for a short trap shot, cross line with a wide open club face and Vertcal Hinging.
You could manipulate any Hinge Action while swinging from the wrists, no?
TGM short shots are not a to be confused with Basic and Acquired which are stepping stones or a curriculum to an effective Total Motion. Compressed short shots leading to compressed long shots. Beautiful stuff. There are times when they are useful short shot methods yes, often. But ideally you have other options when intentional compression leakage is a better way to go.
Homer had nothing against intentional steering for short shots.
Hinging is much easier and vastly more reliable than Swiveling. I think people misunderstand the Hinge because they don't align the Wedges at 90 degrees.
Hinging is much easier and vastly more reliable than Swiveling. I think people misunderstand the Hinge because they don't align the Wedges at 90 degrees.
Hinging is much easier and vastly more reliable than Swiveling. I think people misunderstand the Hinge because they don't align the Wedges at 90 degrees.
You raise an interesting question. The "vertical" of Hinge Action's left hand to the associated Basic Plane alignment. D, do you thinks it's a "geometrically" vertical thing again as opposed to literally vertical? Sorta like geometrically flat ? I think it must be to encompass the turned left hand grip types. From not turned all the way to the fully turned 10-2-D.
How can I describe this better? Say you had a turned left hand grip , turned any amount and you held a ping pong paddle like wise, with the paddles face vertical to the ground . To Hinge properly the paddle would maintain the vertical to the basic plane alignment despite the fact the hand is turned. The hands condition thus being considered "geometrically" vertical though not literally vertical.
You raise an interesting question. The "vertical" of Hinge Action's left hand to the associated Basic Plane alignment. D, do you thinks it's a "geometrically" vertical thing again as opposed to literally vertical? Sorta like geometrically flat ? I think it must be to encompass the turned left hand grip types. From not turned all the way to the fully turned 10-2-D.
How can I describe this better? Say you had a turned left hand grip , turned any amount and you held a ping pong paddle like wise, with the paddles face vertical to the ground . To Hinge properly the paddle would maintain the vertical to the basic plane alignment despite the fact the hand is turned. The hands condition thus being considered "geometrically" vertical though not literally vertical.
Uh maybe I just made it worse with that attempt.
I understand, and it's an interesting comparison. But the Flat Left Wrist is the Flat Left Wrist. If it's Bent or Arched then you sacrifice Rhythm to the extent of it's Bent or Arched condition.
Turning the Left Hand to the Top of the Shaft (10-2-D), you substitute Bending and Arching for Cocking and Uncocking and Visa Versa. The Left Arm Wedge is aligned at 0 degrees (its On Plane at Impact). You'll need to Unbend the Right Wrist because its on the same Plane as the Uncocking Left Wrist. Controlled Throwaway.
While the Right Forearm seeks its Angle of Approach for Impact, it is the responsibility of the Right Forearm Wedge, to return the Left Wrist to whatever Alignments assigned to it at Impact Fix. When the Wedges are Aligned at 90 degrees, it's the function of the Right Forearm Wedge to return the Left Wrist to Vertical, Level and Flat for Impact. It has no choice; it can only do that, it's aligned for that, it exists for that, regardless of Hinge Action. Extensor Action gives the Right Forearm Wedge this control.
Except when using the Elbow Plane, the Right Forearm Wedge is Only On-Plane (Aligned to the Swing Plane) for the Impact Interval unless the Right Shoulder is On-Plane and then, from Impact to Follow-through.
Of course, without Extensor Action you may get as far as a Tour Player. Doomed. Always worried if you'll have your "A" swing today. Always eating someone else's food, driving someone else's car, playing someone else's clubs. Always leaving. Always looking for another trick.
I understand, and it's an interesting comparison. But the Flat Left Wrist is the Flat Left Wrist. If it's Bent or Arched then you sacrifice Rhythm to the extent of it's Bent or Arched condition.
Turning the Left Hand to the Top of the Shaft (10-2-D), you substitute Bending and Arching for Cocking and Uncocking and Visa Versa. The Left Arm Wedge is aligned at 0 degrees (its On Plane at Impact). You'll need to Unbend the Right Wrist because its on the same Plane as the Uncocking Left Wrist. Controlled Throwaway.
While the Right Forearm seeks its Angle of Approach for Impact, it is the responsibility of the Right Forearm Wedge, to return the Left Wrist to whatever Alignments assigned to it at Impact Fix. When the Wedges are Aligned at 90 degrees, it's the function of the Right Forearm Wedge to return the Left Wrist to Vertical, Level and Flat for Impact. It has no choice; it can only do that, it's aligned for that, it exists for that, regardless of Hinge Action. Extensor Action gives the Right Forearm Wedge this control.
Except when using the Elbow Plane, the Right Forearm Wedge is Only On-Plane (Aligned to the Swing Plane) for the Impact Interval.
Nice.
D, I think you prefer the right hand for club face control maybe. Fine by me , there are options! Trillions of em. Homer to my understanding stuck to Left Hand Clubface , Right Hand Clubhead till at least 1982. The Right Elbow being problematic when using the Right Hand for Hinging. But was there not a change to the definition of Hinge ACtion in the 7th to include either hand and Vertical or Parallel to the Basic Plane? Is Parallel in regard to the turned left hand of 10-2-D?
Ben Hogan said "The left hand is the steering wheel, the right hand is the gas". While "gas" is open to interpretation perhaps and off topic it would seem to me that "steering wheel" is club face control. Angled for him yes often but he did all three hinge actions to my eye. Manipulated Hands Swinging. His Alignments in Finish Swivel being beautifully telling, often revealing of his Hinge Action and shop shaping geometry.
Everything that guy did was beautiful and yet he got that way by stripping away everything that wasn't useful. the most beautiful of forms but still a product of function. I gotta get me some function ....
Like you I "feel" very much like its a right sided deal although with the left shoulder is the centre ......meaning its a left sided swing by definition. If you know what I mean. Im all ride sided but Im not Right ARm Swinging, which by definition would have the centre at the Right Elbow. Which raises another question for ya... Does the Right Arm Swinger use EA? If he did wouldn't that re establish the Left Shoulder as the Centre? Right Arm Swingers often have soft , bent left arms right? Me Im EA on , left arm as a string or sometimes a rod.... they're both forms of EA to my mind.
The Left Sided stroke is a Right Sided thing, I couldn't agree more. That's why you're Club Champ. Right Wrist Clubface Control? Not me.
When you say "Control" and I say "Control" it should mean the same thing. Clubface Control is dominated by Hinge Action.
The Left Arm check-reins the Right Elbow. The Right Forearm Wedge helps. They work together. Left Hand - Clubface; Right Hand - Clubhead. But both hands are on the Club.
Quote:
Siegfried: How do I know you're not Control? Maxwell Smart: If I were Control, you'd already be dead. Siegfried: If you were Control, you'd already be dead. Maxwell Smart: Neither of us is dead, so I am obviously not from Control. Shtarker: That actually makes sense.
The Left Arm check-reins the Right Elbow. The Right Forearm Wedge helps. They work together. Left Hand - Clubface; Right Hand - Clubhead. But both hands are on the Club.
D, when you say "control" I have to say "the cone of silence hasn't worked in weeks, Max".
My apologies. I got you wrong on the right hand face control thing.
The above is exactly what I feel Im swinging, the Right Forearm Flying Wedge. You need EA to make it all work, make the Triad work I believe.
Wrist conditions , grip pressures , the loading of the pressure points , various combos of wrist firmness are so key. The two hands have a lot to manage or Control in the war against KAOS.
The Left Sided stroke is a Right Sided thing, I couldn't agree more. That's why you're Club Champ. Right Wrist Clubface Control? Not me.
When you say "Control" and I say "Control" it should mean the same thing. Clubface Control is dominated by Hinge Action.
The Left Arm check-reins the Right Elbow. The Right Forearm Wedge helps. They work together. Left Hand - Clubface; Right Hand - Clubhead. But both hands are on the Club.
how is a left sided swing a right sided thing?, forget the right arm and wedge in a left arm swing, the right arm doesn't "help" or should not "help" in a true swing through impact, the only help it should give is a little extensor and the right forearm startup, the left arm is pulling the number 3 pp down its delivery line pulling the right arm through, with it's proper closing and structure thanks to extensor which gives the arms their "effortless checkrein action"
push or pull pick one not both and you will be much better off
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