According to Tom Tomasello Standard Hip Action was suppose to be the 10-15 Hip Action for both the swinging and hitting patterns for the 7th edition. Tom assembled a complete 7th edition with Homer's notes. It appears Joe Daniels did the same thing. Tom had that revision completed by the late 80's. Tom instructed his students to change 10-15-B to 10-15-A in the book. When I studied with Tommy, I came to the lessons with delayed hip action, by the time I left (I have it on audio tape)I was learning standard hip action. Trust me, I'm definitely clearing my right hip, combined with the magic of the right forearm action, I have a very stable and reliable backswing.
I use Standard Hip Action for both swinging and hitting with equally good results. I have no desire to go back to delayed hip action. You have to go with what works, I believe Homer would be in agreement.
Great exchange going on in this thread.
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 12-02-2011 at 10:13 PM.
According to Tom Tomasello Standard Hip Action was suppose to be the 10-15 Hip Action for both the swinging and hitting patterns for the 7th edition. Tom assembled a complete 7th edition with Homer's notes. It appears Joe Daniels did the same thing. Tom had that revision completed by the late 80's. Tom instructed his students to change 10-15-B to 10-15-A in the book. When I studied with Tommy, I came to the lessons with delayed hip action, by the time I left (I have it on audio tape)I was learning standard hip action. Trust me, I'm definitely clearing my right hip, combined with the magic of the right forearm action, I have a very stable and reliable backswing.
I use Standard Hip Action for both swinging and hitting with equally good results. I have no desire to go back to delayed hip action. You have to go with what works, I believe Homer would be in agreement.
Great exchange going on in this thread.
DG
great practical insight here...
As a swinger who tends to overswing, i prefer delayed hip action. It helps me set up the lag and drag in the backstroke for all components in the downstroke. I prefer the sequence to be arms, shoulders, hips, knees then feet in the backstroke. By reversing that sequence in the downstroke, this extends the swing radius to the feet, which resists impact deceleration (think of pivot lag in both directions as a kind of extensor action for the pivot).
According to Tom Tomasello Standard Hip Action was suppose to be the 10-15 Hip Action for both the swinging and hitting patterns for the 7th edition. Tom assembled a complete 7th edition with Homer's notes.
DG, I was about to ask you this before:
I seem to remember that you wrote in other threads that in the 7th edition Hip Action for the Basic Stroke Patterns had been changed from Delayed to Standard. Were you referring to that draft 7th edition that Tom Tomasello assembled, or is this really somewhere in the final 7th edition?
I seem to remember that you wrote in other threads that in the 7th edition Hip Action for the Basic Stroke Patterns had been changed from Delayed to Standard. Were you referring to that draft 7th edition that Tom Tomasello assembled, or is this really somewhere in the final 7th edition?
refer to ch. 12 of your own 7th edition IT IS NOT STANDARD
I seem to remember that you wrote in other threads that in the 7th edition Hip Action for the Basic Stroke Patterns had been changed from Delayed to Standard. Were you referring to that draft 7th edition that Tom Tomasello assembled, or is this really somewhere in the final 7th edition?
So you have ask yourself did the notes for the 7th edition say standard hip action or was that a conversation between Homer and Tomasello...and if the notes said Standard Hip Action did Joe Daniels make the decision to retain delayed hip action in the stroke patterns. Good question for Joe Daniels? I got to believe Joe Daniels and Tom Tomasello had the same set of 7th edition updates, in the 7th edition text Joe Daniels mentions 90 pages of notes and Tommy mentioned the same amount. You would have to assume that Sally Kelley probably provided Tom and Joe copies of those notes. Tom Tomasello painstakingly put those updates into a copy of the 6th edition. Tommy knew that book inside and out...
With my backswing, I'm sensing both the right hip action and the action of the hands per the straight line delivery path per the #3 pressure point. I'm hitting the ball long and straight, consistently. Why?
If I use Right Forearm Takeaway (trying to keep right arm straight, wide arc), I lose my pivot angle/waist bend, that condition is called bobbing. If I use Magic of the Right Forearm takeaway (bending or levering the right elbow at the start of the backswing) with delayed hip action that puts an excessive amount of pressure on the right elbow. The backstroke motion that Tommy taught; Magic of the Right Forearm and Standard Hip action solved all of my backswing issues. I'm swinging within myself and retaining the three most important angles.
1) Knee flex
2) Maintaining Waist Bend
3) The Right Wrist conditon (Bent and Level)
I believe this is a process an AI should be taking you through.
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 12-03-2011 at 03:56 PM.
Spent a lot of time with the 6th during the 90's, today, I go between the 2nd/6th/7th. I'm in the market for the 3rd edition. Really like the putting stroke pattern in the 2nd.
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