Generally the plane you will swing on is dictated by the clubs lie angle, set the club flatly soled on the ground, your startup and backstroke will go backwards upwards and inwards simultaneously, the hands and clubhead should travel up the same line as the clubs intended lie angle to about the halfway point in the swing then it will likely shift up to a slightly steeper plane, I realize a good video is necessary to really demonstrate this I will try to put one up ASAP.
Very impressive. Obviously you guys have thought this thing through for many applications.
If it would help me with the elusive left hip bump and turn, it would be worth it.
Amazing how a combination of the left hip bump and keeping the head behind it can produce a seemingly effortless additional 25 yards on the tee shot. Ill add that keeping that right knee moving on through the impact area, rather than the right foot stuck on the ground, is another key component, for me anyhow. Provided of course you have some hula hula felxibility vs. the Herman Monster/Tin Man look.
I don't see how the lie angle can have a bearing on a 3d motion, if I set my clubs 6 degrees flat it would likely produce a flat backswing?
Not sure I understand the question, remember it is a general statement. the player can choose to swing on any plane angle regardless of the clubs lie angle, but he may run into problems if his/her plane is too flat or too steep beyond the lie angle of the club because they may hit the ground with the heel or toe before separation, the ideal solution as homer states would be a club a more rounded heel to toe. We have many choices in this game but the goals are the same, straight plane line, flat left wrist, club head lag pressure point, rhythm, balance and a stationary post are the imperatives and essentials of any golf motion with exception of some special shots around the greens regarding the flat left wrist.
Generally the plane you will swing on is dictated by the clubs lie angle, set the club flatly soled on the ground, your startup and backstroke will go backwards upwards and inwards simultaneously, the hands and clubhead should travel up the same line as the clubs intended lie angle to about the halfway point in the swing then it will likely shift up to a slightly steeper plane, I realize a good video is necessary to really demonstrate this I will try to put one up ASAP.
Thanks. So I presume then that if you set the C-plane at the club lie angle so that the head and shaft rest on the plane from start up to the halfway point, then it would be a mistake to try to keep the shaft on the C-plane from halfway point to End (because you are shifting to a steeper plane). That is one of the things I was not clear about, and without your reply I would have just thought that the goal is to keep the shaft on the plane for the entire backswing and downswing.
Also, in the Hogan book I recall he said that the downswing plane is flatter and points a bit right compared to the backswing plane. That is another issue that I am not clear about, as TGM doesn't say that the plane line changes as far as I am aware.
Thanks. So I presume then that if you set the C-plane at the club lie angle so that the head and shaft rest on the plane from start up to the halfway point, then it would be a mistake to try to keep the shaft on the C-plane from halfway point to End (because you are shifting to a steeper plane). That is one of the things I was not clear about, and without your reply I would have just thought that the goal is to keep the shaft on the plane for the entire backswing and downswing.
Also, in the Hogan book I recall he said that the downswing plane is flatter and points a bit right compared to the backswing plane. That is another issue that I am not clear about, as TGM doesn't say that the plane line changes as far as I am aware.
There would be no mistake of swinging the club on a single plane with zero shift, it is just not common and most players are not capable of this. Ideally the golfer should create a two dimensional, flat plane, once he bends the plane line it becomes three dimensional and precision is lost. The plane line should not change, the golfer should always swing along the plane line but not necessarily the flight line.
Thank you whip. I am sure I will be ordering a C-plane pretty soon. I've been playing for a long time, but the more I understand my swing, the more I realize how crucial the plane is. Usually when things go bad it is because I have gotten off-plane.
There would be no mistake of swinging the club on a single plane with zero shift, it is just not common and most players are not capable of this. Ideally the golfer should create a two dimensional, flat plane, once he bends the plane line it becomes three dimensional and precision is lost. The plane line should not change, the golfer should always swing along the plane line but not necessarily the flight line.
I don't see how this could possibly work, as the shaft rotates around the sweetspot, which is the thing that should stay on some plane. If the sweetspot stays on a plane, the shaft cannot.