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Old 05-09-2011, 04:46 PM
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some call it bobbing but I think that is when it real excessive, and when it involve moving way up out of your spine anlge. Kostis was ripping Tiger apart about his squat move, but when you look at footage Paul Casey, his own student, he makes this move too. (albeit not to the same extent as Tiger)

Hogan really lowered himself on the DS....Arnie as well
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Old 05-09-2011, 06:09 PM
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Mr. K calls it Bobbing and its a "snare".
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:04 PM
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A lowering of the head due to axis tilt is ok, IMO, provided you got some lag. Otherwise one might break a wrist plowing the club into the ground.

Somehow I don't think the game is riddled with 10 handicappers who have messed themselves up perfecting Tigers squat. Or Sneads.
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:19 PM
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A lowering of the head due to axis tilt is ok, IMO, provided you got some lag. Otherwise one might break a wrist plowing the club into the ground.

Somehow I don't think the game is riddled with 10 handicappers who have messed themselves up perfecting Tigers squat. Or Sneads.
Like I said I think Tigers squat maybe excessive, but there is no doubt that using the ground and "sitting" into your left side to some degree is A MOVE done by better golfers.

Day 2 of working on this move and Im still seeing better compression on the ball w/about a 2 yard fade. But this is golf , so talk to me in a month
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Old 05-10-2011, 04:18 PM
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The non TGM golfers set up a little different to the ball, not having the right forearm on plane. That means that they have to get into a different alignment at impact. Maybe this gives a squat - which is not needed especially by a TGM hitter who addresses the ball at impact fix?
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Old 05-11-2011, 10:56 AM
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good point, although I do see Stricker (based on Wayne DeFransesco's analysis) sit down and he does set up w/ his rt forearm on plane. Unsure about Brian G. He does make a move where he springs up with his legs through impact though. Ive heard this is a power creating move.
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Old 05-12-2011, 12:46 AM
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good point, although I do see Stricker (based on Wayne DeFransesco's analysis) sit down and he does set up w/ his rt forearm on plane. Unsure about Brian G. He does make a move where he springs up with his legs through impact though. Ive heard this is a power creating move.
The squat is a move that enables you to lead with the hips for a long time and clear them aggressively. More important for swingers than for hitters I think.

I've been working on it because I want to figure out what I can do to delay the release. I look pathetic at impact but I feel like I can really step on the gas through the ball. I have been at two different launch monitors lately and the smash factor was excellent. Which means that I got a lot out of the somewhat limited clubhead speed that I produced. But with this pattern I am forced to start the release earlier than I'd like to so I want to try to save accumulator #2 a bit longer and find out if it pays off.

It would be a gross overstatement to say that I've figured it all out yet, but it seems like the squat enables you to lead with the hip and clear them early - like Snead or Hogan did. But to benefit from it you need to delay the shoulder turn. In other words keep the "x-factor" for very late in the down stroke. Clear the hips as early as possible but turn the shoulders as late as possible, basically.

It seems to me like the combination of squat, early hips and late shoulders makes it a lot easier to delay the release of all accumulators, basically.

Brian G is a hitter, and as far as I can see from the four videos that google gave me he doesn't squat and he doesn't clear the hips very well. He basically has zero lag between his hips and shoulders at impact and his feet are very passive. It looks powerless compared to a Hogan or a Snead - or a Rory or a Dustin for that matter. But since we know that Brian is a hitter we can assume that there is more force behind impact than meets the eye. And his impact efficiency (smash factor etc) is actually pretty decent.

Brian's release starts early. He isn't even close to delaying his release with the best of them. I bet this costs him a few mph in clubhead speed. But probably not as much as one might think since he is a hitter.
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The non TGM golfers set up a little different to the ball, not having the right forearm on plane. That means that they have to get into a different alignment at impact. Maybe this gives a squat - which is not needed especially by a TGM hitter who addresses the ball at impact fix?
Interesting observation. If you look at a lot of these pro swings, they squat and their head drops on the downswing, but then they don't change their level through impact.

To me, the squat look of the legs feels more like a rotary torquing against the ground than an actual vertical squat.
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Im thinking you are correct. Lets get out for a round soon Ben....
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