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Old 12-17-2010, 11:34 AM
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Lynn,

Thanks for the question.

Are you teaching people to produce seperation at lowpoint as described in 2-C-1#3 to produce maximum compression (no "glancing force") and a dead straight shot?

I doubt it.

Clearly, you understand and respect D plane well enough to know that this is the only way you can phrase a question that matches the book in some way.

It's not really the geometry of the circle as I see it drawn on napkins, easels and pieces of paper is it?

This was my experience and I still have not been convinced.

Again, I am quite open to discussion.
John,

Thank you for thanking me for my question. Actually, there were several questions, but for whatever the reason, you chose not to answer even one of them.



Let's revisit the situation:

My questions referenced the Impact alignments of Sketch 2-C-1 #3 and asked that your answers address those alignments specifically.

I asked you simple, straightforward questions that deserved simple, straightforward answers.

I did not ask you to ask me a question regarding my teaching.

Nor did I ask you to ask me a question regarding your perception of the "geometry of the circle as .... drawn on napkins, easels and pieces of paper".

Finally, I did not ask for your comment as to how I chose to "phrase" my question.

So, let's begin again . . .

Please answer my questions. In the interest of brevity, let's make it even more simple and focus on just the first question:

Will the Impact alignments as illustrated in 2-C-1 #3 produce a dead straight shot? Or will they not?

No "discussion" required.

One word will do.

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Old 12-17-2010, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
John,

Thank you for thanking me for my question. Actually, there were several questions, and for whatever the reason, you chose not to answer even one of them.



Let's revisit the situation:

My questions referenced the Impact alignments of Sketch 2-C-1 #3 and asked that your answers address those alignments specifically.

I asked you simple, straightforward questions that deserved simple, straightforward answers.

I did not ask you to ask me a question regarding my teaching.

Nor did I ask you to ask me a question regarding your perception of the "geometry of the circle as .... drawn on napkins, easels and pieces of paper".

Finally, I did not ask for your comment as to how I chose to "phrase" my question.

So, let's begin again . . .

Please answer my questions. In the interest of brevity, let's make it even more simple and focus on just the first question:

Will the Impact alignments as illustrated in 2-C-1 #3 produce a dead straight shot? Or will they not?

No "discussion" required.

One word will do.

specious but not being overly technical with the details and specifics of the drawing I have mentioned in the past, I would say yes.

I tried to use one word. I really did but I feared it would get me kicked off.
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Old 12-17-2010, 01:28 PM
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. . . yes.
Thank you.

I agree.

In fact, the alignments are identical -- only with more detail -- to those you demonstrated in your "level" (Low Point) explanation of the straight shot in Parts 1 and 2 of your well-done YouTube 'D Plane' videos.

I understand the complexities introduced when the ball is located forward or aft of Low Point. As did Homer Kelley. Which is why he differentiated the "precision position per 2-G" from other Impact Locations requiring "Clubface adjustment" (7-10).

For now, we at least agree that the depiction of Impact Geometry in 2-C-1 #3 will produce a dead straight shot. In other words . . .

It is correct.

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Old 12-17-2010, 02:00 PM
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Daryl,

I saw that.

This seems appropriate for the situation.

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Old 12-17-2010, 02:04 PM
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Daryl,

I saw that.

This seems appropriate for the situation.

John, I really think that you're a bad, mean person.
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Old 12-17-2010, 02:09 PM
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Daryl,

I saw that.

This seems appropriate for the situation.

LOL

I was just about to start a chorus of Kum Bay ah, however it's spelled.

Here is a video that can go to both sides.

http://www.youtube.com/user/KevinPGA.../6/WmWi3g4RWvI
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Old 12-17-2010, 02:19 PM
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Well, I don't need to go through this. I'm better off working and studying on my own than to be continually stalled in my progress by someone like John.

A few months off will do me good. I think that I'll start posting on johns website. Until I'm banned. But, since I'll be the only one posting, it may take awhile.
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Old 12-17-2010, 02:30 PM
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Well, I don't need to go through this. I'm better off working and studying on my own than to be continually stalled in my progress by someone like John.

A few months off will do me good. I think that I'll start posting on johns website. Until I'm banned. But, since I'll be the only one posting, it may take awhile.
I'm sorry to hear that. I learn so much from you here Daryl!

This discussion has done nothing but reinforce my faith in the work of Homer Kelley, and made me aware that there are modern ways of measuring that get us to basically the same place as far as application in the golf swing. I don't think any of us are very far apart, and the differences apply only in debate, not the golf swing. I personally don't care about the debate.

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Old 12-17-2010, 02:34 PM
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Daryl,

ok.

I am not a bad, mean person but you're going to believe what you want to believe anyway.

I'll save you the trouble.
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Well, I don't need to go through this. I'm better off working and studying on my own than to be continually stalled in my progress by someone like John.

A few months off will do me good. I think that I'll start posting on johns website. Until I'm banned. But, since I'll be the only one posting, it may take awhile.
It's probably none of my business, but are you not just punishing yourself by staying away? If you don't want to have any dialoque with JG - just avoid him, if that's what you want. But it's here you belong.
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