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Old 11-25-2010, 11:19 AM
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IF for me. I've been doing it for years without knowing it was an "approved" method anywhere in the golfing world!
To prove Mr. Kelley's point of no right, wrong, or best...

I prefer setting up with impact hands. It helps me keep my alignments at impact.

I find the MAJORITY of my students enjoy standard address with lagging club-head takeaway. I have helped a lot of people moving them in this direction just as YODA taught us at Medina!

I will keep fooling with SA and LCT and it wouldn't surprise me if I change someday...

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Old 11-25-2010, 12:00 PM
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Kevin, you said, "I prefer setting up with impact hands. It helps me keep my alignments at impact."

I have been trying to set up with what I think are impact hands. What I am seeing at set up looking down at my hands, arms, feet are:
-pronated left forearm
-flat,turned left wrist
-bent right wrist
-clubface pointed right
-feet aligned to left to accomodate right facing clubface
-also I feel more of my balance, weight is on the left side and a little more upper body tilt to the right

What's wrong with this setup or should I add (or subtract)anything?
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Old 11-25-2010, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by monkutare View Post
Kevin, you said, "I prefer setting up with impact hands. It helps me keep my alignments at impact."

I have been trying to set up with what I think are impact hands. What I am seeing at set up looking down at my hands, arms, feet are:
-pronated left forearm
-flat,turned left wrist
-bent right wrist
-clubface pointed right
-feet aligned to left to accomodate right facing clubface
-also I feel more of my balance, weight is on the left side and a little more upper body tilt to the right

What's wrong with this setup or should I add (or subtract)anything?
There is a lot of personal preference involved monkutare...

YODA has taught us that there is a lot of gray area in set up alignments. Most people won't be exactly by the book, but will add their own twists, possibly using multiple alignments from 10-8 and 10-9...

I'm not sure about the pronated left arm...

Your preference is to hit a straight shot, it sounds like based upon the teaching of D-Plane, which is great. I like to try to hit a "push-draw" so I set up with my plane lines square/square. Again, preference based upon visualization and the way your brain is wired.

Keep experimenting and find your personal preferences. If you like Impact Hands set up, I would suggest the TALY to make sure your hands are far enough ahead. The TALY made a huge difference for me... feel vs. real... I originally felt like my hands were ahead, and my left wrist was straight, but I wasn't even close to what I was trying to accomplish.

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Old 11-25-2010, 05:42 PM
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Kevin,
What are the (bare) essentials of impact hands/fix address?

I'm not lining up left because of the "d" plane. I really don't fully understand it. I'm just lining up more left, intuitively until my clubface feels aligned to the target.
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Old 11-25-2010, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by monkutare View Post
Kevin,
What are the (bare) essentials of impact hands/fix address?

I'm not lining up left because of the "d" plane. I really don't fully understand it. I'm just lining up more left, intuitively until my clubface feels aligned to the target.
Flat Left Wrist
Bent Right Wrist
Can't see your left foot -- blocked by your hands
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Old 11-25-2010, 09:14 PM
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Flat Left Wrist
Bent Right Wrist
Can't see your left foot -- blocked by your hands
I'd like that Bent Right Wrist, Frozen, not stirred, from Startup to left ear. Force your entire Swing or Hit to allow the FBRW to move Down through the ball to your full Finish (not Dutch, unless you are Dutch in which case it is ok ) .


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Originally Posted by KevCarter View Post
To prove Mr. Kelley's point of no right, wrong, or best...

I prefer setting up with impact hands. It helps me keep my alignments at impact.

I find the MAJORITY of my students enjoy standard address with lagging club-head takeaway. I have helped a lot of people moving them in this direction just as YODA taught us at Medina!

I will keep fooling with SA and LCT and it wouldn't surprise me if I change someday...

Kevin
I have started using impact hands, or at least close to impact hands to great success the past few weeks. I think it may have something to do with creating better head and eye alignments. Also maybe not getting the hands as deep on the backswing.
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Old 11-25-2010, 01:07 PM
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I have started using impact hands, or at least close to impact hands to great success the past few weeks. I think it may have something to do with creating better head and eye alignments. Also maybe not getting the hands as deep on the backswing.
I've seen video of your swing. You have come a LONG way! I really like the looks of what I see as a single shift to the turned shoulder plane, maybe even no-shift feel?

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Old 11-25-2010, 02:03 PM
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I've seen video of your swing. You have come a LONG way! I really like the looks of what I see as a single shift to the turned shoulder plane, maybe even no-shift feel?

Kevin
Its pretty close, the hands are not quite zero shifting but I get on the TSP pretty quick. Thanks.
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