I think the tilting of spin axis of the ball and the divot been down and out aren't enough for your claim about Homer and the d-plane , from what i have read about the d-plane there is alot more to it than that. Seems a bit of a leap.
From a practical standpoint, what can the D-Plane concept do for you that 1-L #5 through #17 cannot? Also, on what other basis -- practical or theoretical -- is it superior?
From a practical standpoint, what can the D-Plane concept do for you that 1-L #5 through #17 cannot? Also, on what other basis -- practical or theoretical -- is it superior?
Is the d-plane Homer's work or not? Just a simple question yes or no. That's all i want to know. It is superior in that it is way more complete in all aspects of ball flight theory than anything Homer wrote, like it or not.
Is the d-plane Homer's work or not? Just a simple question yes or no. That's all i want to know. It is superior in that it is way more complete in all aspects of ball flight theory than anything Homer wrote, like it or not.
Mike, who said it was Homer Kelley's work?
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Mike who? Jason is my name and i didn't say anyone said it was Homer's work i just want to know who came up with the theory in the first place Theo.J. or H.K. And from what i read i find it more complete than in the book, that's it.
Mike who? Jason is my name and i didn't say anyone said it was Homer's work i just want to know who came up with the theory in the first place Theo.J. or H.K. And from what i read i find it more complete than in the book, that's it.
Got it. Thanks Mike.
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What is your problem? I told you my name. I will give you my ph# and you can call me and then after you can apologize for calling me Mike is that cool or I'll call you i got nothing to hide.
Is the d-plane Homer's work or not? Just a simple question yes or no. That's all i want to know. It is superior in that it is way more complete in all aspects of ball flight theory than anything Homer wrote, like it or not.
No. Wasn't his . . . We're clearly all to hell about it over here . . . hey Lynnard reckon we outta shut the joint down now . . . gameover . .
Keep real boyz it's been fun . . . tell your boys over there it's Dick Cruz . . . spell it right.
From a practical standpoint, what can the D-Plane concept do for you that 1-L #5 through #17 cannot? Also, on what other basis -- practical or theoretical -- is it superior?
There are now two camps, one espousing Kelley’s work the other Jorgensen’s. This is like disputing the value of the chicken over the egg. One is an integral part of the other. One is the machine (1-L #5 through #17) the other the result (D-Plane). Without either both are poorer.
That which increases our understanding of this game should be embraced by all.
There are now two camps, one espousing Kelley’s work the other Jorgensen’s. This is like disputing the value of the chicken over the egg.
Naah, Strav . . . no "two camps". There is only Truth (as we individually perceive it and debate it and as it actually is).
Regarding LynnBlakeGolf.com and the participants in civil, animated discussions on this and an infinite variety of other topics, our policy is: "Vive la difference"!
Homer Kelley himself stated that "because of questions of all kinds, reams of additional detail must be made available -- but separately. And probably endlessly" (1-H). The reams of "additional detail" would obviously include precision measurements made possible (and generally available) by modern technologies. Homer was a scientist who always sought to reconcile observations -- however precise -- with law. Given that he has been dead 27 years, he would herald these recent proofs with a hearty "It's about time!".
No one here is attempting to 'squash' the D-Plane. In fact, if I've got my 'readers' on right, the title of this thread is "Must See Videos", and the opening post offers several direct video links to promote its understanding. Then, several posts followed applauding those links.
The first combative post was #12 from footwedge. His agenda was obvious, and his subsequent posts have offered zero educational insights. ["My dad can lick your dad" doesn't qualify as an 'insight'].
Unless his attitude changes -- not holding my breath! -- his presence will be short-lived on this site.