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Old 09-29-2010, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by HungryBear View Post
After thinking about the question posed at #1.

My answer is NO!

Because ZERO accumulator is NOT an accumulator.

The condition is one of a BASIC machine, constructed with a hinge action, preferred either (dual) horizontal, angled, or (dual) vertical. (if you want to stay on an inclined plane)

Only capable of being pushed or pulled through impact.

there is no out of line condition of the secondary lever assembly.
there is no secondary lever assembly.

Just my opinion.

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Maybe it wasn't a very good question.

When the #3 Accumulator is Zeroed out, there is no "Overtaking Action".

My Question: "Does the #3 Accumulator Action still function normally?", maybe I should have asked:
  1. "Do you still swing the same way?" or
  2. "Are the Alignments of the machine the same with or without the #3 Accumulator?" or
  3. "Does the Power Package release change in any Way?" or
  4. "If the #3 Accumulator is partly responsible for the Closing of the Clubface in relation to the Plane Line, is that Closing activity still present when there is no "Overtaking Action?".

Does the #3 Accumulator have a Dual Role? "Basic Motion" (Basic Geometry or Basic Alignment) uses Zero Pivot and uses Zero #3 Accumulator by Placing the Club into the Cup of the Left Hand. During the Backstroke, the Clubface Turns and during the Downstroke it Rolls. Is that caused by the same mechanism that operates the #3 Accumulator? Or, is it simply "Orbiting Arms", 2-G. There are two versions of the #3 Accumulator, Left Hand Version and Right Hand Version.

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Yes, in that there is still a definite 'Overtaking Action' (of the Hands by the Clubhead) as driven -- actively (Hitting) or passively (swinging) -- by the straightening Right Arm.
"Mike O" alluded to another mechanism for operating the #3 Accumulator:
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It's not the only or required powering source for the #3 accumulator (see 6-B-3-A) - you have other options/ contributors available - depending on shot length etc.
If Mike O finished sweeping snow off the tee boxes, perhaps he can expand his comment.

One more thought: Essential Geometry.

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Learning step-by-step – start with 3-0 and 3-b. Learning step-by-step to maintain the essential Geometry per 5-0, under all conditions, alone leads to a MASTER’S level of execution. That is – with and without Wristcock, with and without #3 Accumulator, with any Hinging, with any Plane Line Combination (10-5) from any Ball Location, Hitting or Swinging, with Right Forearm Takeaway (7-3) and with a motionless Right Wrist.
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Old 09-29-2010, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Maybe it wasn't a very good question.

When the #3 Accumulator is Zeroed out, there is no "Overtaking Action".

My Question: "Does the #3 Accumulator Action still function normally?", maybe I should have asked:
  1. "Do you still swing the same way?" or
  2. "Are the Alignments of the machine the same with or without the #3 Accumulator?" or
  3. "Does the Power Package release change in any Way?" or
  4. "If the #3 Accumulator is partly responsible for the Closing of the Clubface in relation to the Plane Line, is that Closing activity still present when there is no "Overtaking Action?".

Does the #3 Accumulator have a Dual Role? "Basic Motion" (Basic Geometry or Basic Alignment) uses Zero Pivot and uses Zero #3 Accumulator by Placing the Club into the Cup of the Left Hand. During the Backstroke, the Clubface Turns and during the Downstroke it Rolls. Is that caused by the same mechanism that operates the #3 Accumulator? Or, is it simply "Orbiting Arms", 2-G. There are two versions of the #3 Accumulator, Left Hand Version and Right Hand Version.



"Mike O" alluded to another mechanism for operating the #3 Accumulator:


If Mike O finished sweeping snow off the tee boxes, perhaps he can expand his comment.

One more thought: Essential Geometry.
OK-My Opinion:

1. No!
2. No!
3. Yes!
4. Yes! because of hinge action and pivot not because of #3- but it seems all the same with rhythm?

#1-#2-#3 because, for an accumulator #3 other than zero there is an required plane shift and/or manipulation. I argue that the necessary plane shift is part of release. With the proper adjustment a #3 accumulator with no #2 activity or #2 active with no #3 activity.
Just My opinion - and food for thought.

May I add that this may have limited utility.
The Bear

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Old 09-29-2010, 11:28 AM
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You'd probably have to use a strong double action grip to hit the ball properly without accumulator#3, because you wouldn't have any time or hand travel to do the roll. 100% of the wrist cock could be attributed to accumulator #2 and you could use angled hinge or perhaps vertical hinge with no roll through the ball.

But a single action grip with accumulator #2 and without acc#3 would require an instant roll. Since we have an impact interval, it wouldnt be possible to hit the ball straight even if the instant roll was possible.
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Old 09-29-2010, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BerntR View Post
You'd probably have to use a strong double action grip to hit the ball properly without accumulator#3, because you wouldn't have any time or hand travel to do the roll. 100% of the wrist cock could be attributed to accumulator #2 and you could use angled hinge or perhaps vertical hinge with no roll through the ball.

But a single action grip with accumulator #2 and without acc#3 would require an instant roll. Since we have an impact interval, it wouldnt be possible to hit the ball straight even if the instant roll was possible.
Yes the grip needs to change but I believe that places no restriction on hinge action if we place all hinge action at the shoulder-I need to think that through- maybe only angled hinging available

the limited utility caveat remains.

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