In the teaching, the right elbow and forearm are "re-positioned" when moving from Top to End as the Wrist is Turned. 7-3 explains the different alignments. Is the change also required/necessary to maintain the alignment of the Power Package basic structure and the integrity of The Flying Wedges?
Ref: 6-B-3-0-1
The basic structure of Power Package are the Left Arm and Right Forearm Flying Wedges oriented at 90 degrees to each other. Nothing should alter this alignment. Moving from Top to End should not alter this Alignment.
Construct your Wedges while sitting down at a Table with your Left Wrist Vertical to the Ground. Lower your Right Elbow to the Table. Rotate the Wedges to the Right while keeping the Right Elbow on the Tabletop. You have now moved from "Top" to "End" as far as the Wedges are concerned.
This is where we part paths DOW3. It's either a misunderstanding on my part or a real difference in interpretation or both.
I claim that Swingers don't have a "Top" and Hitters don't have an "End".
For Hitters, going from "Top" to "End" does not relocate the Right Elbow, but only the Hands, which re-aligns the Right Forearm, which Swivels the Wrists (re-alignment) and converts a Single Wrist Action Backstroke to a Standard Action Backstroke.
Wherever a Swinger using Standard Wrist Action Halts his Backstroke, he is at "End Alignment". Wherever a Hitter using Single Wrist Action Halts his Backstroke, he is at "Top Alignment". If the Hitter's Hands continue moving while the Elbow cannot**, he will (may) unintentionally load the Secondary Lever. The difference in terminology is needed to explain/understand this phenomena.
Section #6 is "Top". This should not be confused with the "Top" vs. "End" terminology. One is a Section of the Golf Stroke while the other two are Force Alignment Orientations. "Top" is the term used to identify the #3 Pressure Point Loaded against the Primary Lever and "End" is the Term used to identify the #3 Pressure Point Loaded against the Secondary Lever.
**If the Elbow continues it will move off plane (then none of this matters). Or, the Elbow may not move farther than its physical limitation during the backstroke but the Hands have a greater range of motion, mean they can continue when the Elbow cannot. The Hands will move from Top to End.
Hey, I can be completely wrong. But I don't think so. But I'm more than willing to update my knowledge if you are willing to show me a different way of interpreting "Top"/"End". And, so that I don't spend the rest of my life going down the wrong path (and end up like a Philadelphia school teacher) I would be thankful of the correction sooner rather than later.
I have several students who are on parole with cousins in Joliet, Daryl...
Originally Posted by Daryl
The basic structure of Power Package are the Left Arm and Right Forearm Flying Wedges oriented at 90 degrees to each other. Nothing should alter this alignment. Moving from Top to End should not alter this Alignment.
Construct your Wedges while sitting down at a Table with your Left Wrist Vertical to the Ground. Lower your Right Elbow to the Table. Rotate the Wedges to the Right while keeping the Right Elbow on the Tabletop. You have now moved from "Top" to "End" as far as the Wedges are concerned.
This is where we part paths DOW3. It's either a misunderstanding on my part or a real difference in interpretation or both.
I claim that Swingers don't have a "Top" and Hitters don't have an "End".
For Hitters, going from "Top" to "End" does not relocate the Right Elbow, but only the Hands, which re-aligns the Right Forearm, which Swivels the Wrists (re-alignment) and converts a Single Wrist Action Backstroke to a Standard Action Backstroke.
Wherever a Swinger using Standard Wrist Action Halts his Backstroke, he is at "End Alignment". Wherever a Hitter using Single Wrist Action Halts his Backstroke, he is at "Top Alignment". If the Hitter's Hands continue moving while the Elbow cannot**, he will (may) unintentionally load the Secondary Lever. The difference in terminology is needed to explain/understand this phenomena.
Section #6 is "Top". This should not be confused with the "Top" vs. "End" terminology. One is a Section of the Golf Stroke while the other two are Force Alignment Orientations. "Top" is the term used to identify the #3 Pressure Point Loaded against the Primary Lever and "End" is the Term used to identify the #3 Pressure Point Loaded against the Secondary Lever.
**If the Elbow continues it will move off plane (then none of this matters). Or, the Elbow may not move farther than its physical limitation during the backstroke but the Hands have a greater range of motion, mean they can continue when the Elbow cannot. The Hands will move from Top to End.
Hey, I can be completely wrong. But I don't think so. But I'm more than willing to update my knowledge if you are willing to show me a different way of interpreting "Top"/"End". And, so that I don't spend the rest of my life going down the wrong path (and end up like a Philadelphia school teacher) I would be thankful of the correction sooner rather than later.
Once I show them your avatar, you are toast fella!
Moi.
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Construct your Wedges while sitting down at a Table with your Left Wrist Vertical to the Ground. Lower your Right Elbow to the Table. Rotate the Wedges to the Right while keeping the Right Elbow on the Tabletop. You have now moved from "Top" to "End" as far as the Wedges are concerned.
Typical Swinger getting the Right Forearm Flying Wedge's plane and the Inclined Plane all miscombobulated.
With the Right Forearm Flying Wedge "lying on the table" ( the plane of the right wrist bend, the plane of the RFFW) a turn of the entire RFFW to the right (keeping it and the degree of right wrist bend intact) ......as an illustration of the Left Wrist turning to the Inclined Plane as in Wrist Action during the backswing say.........would see the clubshaft rotate so its aft lay on the table top while the Right Hand rotated under the plane , palm to plane, with the right forearm and elbow moved under the table top , which now represents the Inclined Plane not the Plane of the RFFW.
It'll stay that way until or during Release where (typically) either CF Throwout, Swinging or Drive out, Hitting will see the left wrist swivel off its aligned flat to plane condition. Once the Hitter Drives against the Aft of the Shaft (at pressure point #1) the Left Wrist Leaves the Inclined Plane, Release is underway. Continuos Thrusting as the Hitter creates his own Lag by Driving the Wet Mop. As opposed to the Swinger's CF Throwout that once let loose , could see him fall asleep as its continues on its own. And so the Hitter must Delay the Drive from Startdown through to his desired Release Point for all but Full Sweep Release type shots by Delaying his Active Right Arm Extension , his Right Arm Throw (10-20). He transports the fully loaded #1 , the Right Elbow, from Top through Startdown to his desired Release Point.......via the Pivot. Best practiced with Startdown Waggles.
Four Barrel , Hitting with Drag Loading in Startdown will load both the Top and the Aft of the Shaft. Three Barrel Hitting just the aft for Drive Loading right?
........But is there no loading during the 3B Hitters transport of the loaded #1 from Top to Release? Sure seems like Drag Loading in my swing or maybe Im 4B'n it. Where's my extra hundred yards if thats what im doing? Does this relate to the Hitters slow start down? I dunno.
Its sort of like either the top/bottom axis or the aft/fore axis of the shaft is aligned to the Inclined Plane and Swiveling rolls em over. The direction of loading based upon what it is you are loading, left wrist or right elbow determines which pressure point is loaded at Top ..........how ever short a swing it is to my mind. It's the pressure point that "rotates a quarter turn" moves from aft to top , first joint to knuckle, nothing else moves although the Right Elbow , indeed the entire Right Forearm Flying Wedge aligns to support the load in what ever direction it is loading.
You, DOCW3 and Yoda seem to be on the same page. I seem to have fallen off the reservation. I seem to be too concerned with insignificant mechanics and I fail to see the big picture. It's getting pretty scary when the only one I can turn to for sympathy and understanding is Innercityteacher.
I wrote to DOCW3, I said that it's all about the Right Forearm Flying Wedge. Swiveling allows the Clubshaft to Load the Right Forearm Flying Wedge. Not Swiveling Loads the Primary Lever. The #3 PP is only a Pressure Point. It only senses the different Loading.
We'll see what he says. Maybe he'll reply through a Post.
It's getting pretty scary when the only one I can turn to for sympathy and understanding is Innercityteacher.
D, that sounds like a lonely place your in. He's a Flyers fan for crying out loud! You got friends man. Lots of 'em. Good honest hockey team lovin people.
Hey remember your "meatball methods" thread ........I piss my Riviera sansabelts when I ever think about that one......that was inspired, man.
Ah, the good ole days! Wonder when the next "homecoming" opportunity is gonna come our way? Or should we just make one ourselves?
D, that sounds like a lonely place your in. He's a Flyers fan for crying out loud! You got friends man. Lots of 'em. Good honest hockey team lovin people.
Hey remember your "meatball methods" thread ........I piss my Riviera sansabelts when I ever think about that one......that was inspired, man.
Ah, the good ole days! Wonder when the next "homecoming" opportunity is gonna come our way? Or should we just make one ourselves?
Flyers training camp starts September 17th. God Bless America!
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Flyers training camp starts September 17th. God Bless America!
So you guys have feelings too? Man, how bout Borje Salming's feelings when three of your goons were trying to mug him and the local authorities brought out the cops and laid charges.
D, that sounds like a lonely place your in. He's a Flyers fan for crying out loud! You got friends man. Lots of 'em. Good honest hockey team lovin people.
Hey remember your "meatball methods" thread ........I piss my Riviera sansabelts when I ever think about that one......that was inspired, man.
Ah, the good ole days! Wonder when the next "homecoming" opportunity is gonna come our way? Or should we just make one ourselves?
I'm thinking about going South next Spring. That seems a long way off.
I have something else to admit regarding PP # 3...
Originally Posted by Daryl
I'm thinking about going South next Spring. That seems a long way off.
Hi, my name's Pat and I'm a grateful member of (oh, that meeting is Monday night) uhmm, people who can't thrust with PP # 3.
I tried it on the range this morning and I was ok with the 7 iron, at the target, about 160-165 yards and did it 5 times in a row, so I was pumped thinking I had it. I pulled out the 2 wood and "snap, crackle, and pop." 230 yards on a rope, at the target, on-purpose, 3 in a row, and then push right, yank left "What?" Pulled the 4 iron and cracked 2 in a row about 195 yard at the target and then, pull, push lost, back to trace BLP, nice and safe!
I set my anchors, loaded my right knee with a bend, nice and still. EA, trace BLP and Step left and throw the javelin through my index finger at the ball's inside quadrant. Lots of exploding dirt and a rock-hard sound at contact.
Any ideas?
Patrick
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