Drawing Lines for Video Instruction

[EdZ]

Why #1 specifically Edz? Cross line Thrust either passive or active? As opposed to #3 Tracing? I dunno.

If you have a good camera angle, #1 lets you see what is happening both for plane, and for startup (swivel or not). Specifically if the startup swivel is on plane or not (if being used).

[O.B.Left]

If you have a good camera angle, #1 lets you see what is happening both for plane, and for startup (swivel or not). Specifically if the startup swivel is on plane or not (if being used).

When you say "on plane" am I right in thinking you mean the path of the hands or specifically the #1pp vis a vis the Hand Path you delineated previously from Top to Impact?

Do you prefer that analytically to the Shaft/ Sweet Spot Plane? Or do you consider them both?

Interesting, thanks

[Richie3Jack]

Camera setup is so key, like EdZ stated.

I also think this is a fantastic camera angle to use with golfers.

3JACK

[GSanders]

Kevin,

Thanks for your prompt response and I appreciate the input from everyone else as well. Camera angles absolutely are of utmost importance. Without their proper alignments, you can receive a false reading on plane angles, etc.

I use a three camera system (down-the-line, face-on, and overhead) and have all three cameras fixed and on plane to the target. Having taught a lot with video since 2001, and one year into my journey with TGM, I wondered if there were certain places to draw lines as reference points and how they are used to better instruct students.

Again I appreciate your help, and I look forward to more discussion on this matter.

Stay Warm,

Curt Sanders

[KevCarter]

Curt,

Sounds like you have a FANTASTIC system! That would be a blast to work with. My inexperience in that area really shows with my original reply. You were looking for a far more advanced answer than I am capable of. I had forgotten who you were already, very advanced "newbie". Hopefully we will hear more, I have been very interested in Ed's answers!

Have a great day Curt!



Kevin

[innercityteacher]

I noticed your swing thought and wondered if you get that low slope then gradual rise to the top ball flight. The goal of which is a softly landing shot?

I know the swing is linear than angular. It just seems very easy and consistent to thrust down while maintaining the wedges. If I exaggerate the wedges and thrust, will I get that distinctive ball flight? If I hit the sweetspot plane or line, will that give the ball flight its distinctives?

Camera setup is so key, like EdZ stated.

I also think this is a fantastic camera angle to use with golfers.

3JACK

[EdZ]

When you say "on plane" am I right in thinking you mean the path of the hands or specifically the #1pp vis a vis the Hand Path you delineated previously from Top to Impact?

Do you prefer that analytically to the Shaft/ Sweet Spot Plane? Or do you consider them both?

Interesting, thanks

I personally do, yes. That said, you of course have to see what the shaft is doing, as well as sweet spot motion/rotation. Very few can have a good hand path without a good shaft/sweetspot plane and get away with it, and basically nobody can get away with it on the downswing.

Ray Floyd comes to mind re: backswing.

All of that said, a good argument can be made that if the camera is correct, all that matters is the sweetspot in an uncompensated motion.

Perhaps Ted and Jeff will chime in as well, as I know they'd both have good insights into their preferences.

[O.B.Left]

I personally do, yes. That said, you of course have to see what the shaft is doing, as well as sweet spot motion/rotation. Very few can have a good hand path without a good shaft/sweetspot plane and get away with it, and basically nobody can get away with it on the downswing.

Ray Floyd comes to mind re: backswing.

All of that said, a good argument can be made that if the camera is correct, all that matters is the sweetspot in an uncompensated motion.

Perhaps Ted and Jeff will chime in as well, as I know they'd both have good insights into their preferences.

Thats pretty cool stuff EdZ. I guess you'd have to take into consideration the number or shifts etc as you monitor the hand path. The backswing may not be the same as the downswing etc. Interesting concept though on pressure points, hand paths etc. Thanks

[KevCarter]

I personally do, yes. That said, you of course have to see what the shaft is doing, as well as sweet spot motion/rotation. Very few can have a good hand path without a good shaft/sweetspot plane and get away with it, and basically nobody can get away with it on the downswing.

Ray Floyd comes to mind re: backswing.

All of that said, a good argument can be made that if the camera is correct, all that matters is the sweetspot in an uncompensated motion.

Perhaps Ted and Jeff will chime in as well, as I know they'd both have good insights into their preferences.

EDZ,

I think you are discussing some VERY important concepts in video teaching. Would it be asking too much for a quick tutorial? I'm hoping you may have saved a couple of pictures of right and wrong in regards to how you are watching the sweetspot plane, as well as how you are watching PP#1. I have a hard time learning without a picture in my mind.

If it would take too much time I understand 100%.

Thanks for considering,
Kevin

[gmbtempe]

One thing I have to work on with my video is to make sure the camera is position the same distance and correct height on easy swing or making comparisons to previous swings is futile.