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Old 10-24-2009, 08:55 AM
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Bio-mechanics are awesome. The guys that know the body that well are a real benefit to the game of golf. The stuff TPI, CHEK, and others are doing for the golfing body is super stuff!

AMM and K-Vest are giving us as instructors a completely different way to measure mechanics and I think that is awesome. We can now look at Zone #1 in a way that Mr. Kelley could never look at it and that is a real benefit.

I have measured the center of gravity (in video) for years. In fact the first time I started thinking about it is when Rob Noel gave me a lesson on hip slide/axis tilt 13 years ago. That was the first time I noticed that shifting the weight effected where I hit the ball on the face of the club.

Center of gravity is below the belly button from face on and as Don Donatucci (forgive me if I spelled it wrong) from rear view it is the booty crack. I know that center of mass is statically and dynamically are different. I also know that center of pressure (in the feet) is different as well. That being said, if one is measuring these three different aspects of weight shift they will all come to different conclusions.

Again I really like Hogan as a model for two reasons: One he was hit by a bus and then went on to play some of his best golf. Second because he got better and better and better over the years. That meant he was building better mechanics.

Really pretty neat stuff! Everyone really needs to just sit back, listen to Bob Marley and The Whailers (or something) and enjoy everything that can be learned and put into action for our golf swings.

Daryl- Thank you for the accolades but I really am just red neck......
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Old 10-24-2009, 09:21 AM
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Thanks for the info VJ. I will start looking at bio-mechanics in a different light. Maybe I'll even have to find my TGM Bio book!

Actually, as a believer in your book, perhaps I've been learning a little bio-mechanics already!

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Old 10-24-2009, 02:02 PM
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That is lot of fine players you have there. Congrats on the successful field testing.

Hands to pivot, does not excuse the Pivot from the work it must do, of which there is a lot.
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Old 10-27-2009, 12:40 AM
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Bio-mechanics are awesome. The guys that know the body that well are a real benefit to the game of golf. The stuff TPI, CHEK, and others are doing for the golfing body is super stuff!

AMM and K-Vest are giving us as instructors a completely different way to measure mechanics and I think that is awesome. We can now look at Zone #1 in a way that Mr. Kelley could never look at it and that is a real benefit.

I have measured the center of gravity (in video) for years. In fact the first time I started thinking about it is when Rob Noel gave me a lesson on hip slide/axis tilt 13 years ago. That was the first time I noticed that shifting the weight effected where I hit the ball on the face of the club.

Center of gravity is below the belly button from face on and as Don Donatucci (forgive me if I spelled it wrong) from rear view it is the booty crack. I know that center of mass is statically and dynamically are different. I also know that center of pressure (in the feet) is different as well. That being said, if one is measuring these three different aspects of weight shift they will all come to different conclusions.

Again I really like Hogan as a model for two reasons: One he was hit by a bus and then went on to play some of his best golf. Second because he got better and better and better over the years. That meant he was building better mechanics.

Really pretty neat stuff! Everyone really needs to just sit back, listen to Bob Marley and The Whailers (or something) and enjoy everything that can be learned and put into action for our golf swings.

Daryl- Thank you for the accolades but I really am just red neck......
Bootycrack . . . brought a tear to my eye . . . .
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Old 10-27-2009, 05:23 PM
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Is Don Donatucci that strange guy from Big Break?

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Old 10-28-2009, 10:28 PM
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I made Zone 1 changes over the summer partly because of this thread and partly because I’m compulsive-obsessive and if a little change is good, then more change is better.

I haven’t bought into “Biomechanics” training. Biomechanics has latched onto the idea that your swing will improve if properly trained to manage ground forces using leg muscles and joints. They may have studied human motion in every major sport. They help jumpers jump. They helped runners run. When in doubt, add more muscle.


Biomechanics Researcher: “How hard do you push with your right leg during the downswing?”
Golfer: “Not too much.”
Biomechanics Researcher: Push Harder.

About mid season I was sold on changing my pivot to include a defined “Sit-Down” Action. That became a train wreck. All that did was force my hands to an elbow plane during the down stroke. Anything that affects that straight-line delivery path does no good for my swing.
It’s not about the legs. Feet and knees accommodate Hip Motion. Hip Action moves the Shoulders.

My legs are "Passive" again. I use my feet and knees. They respond and allow. My head is stationary.


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2-M-2 POWER REGULATION Clubhead Lag Pressure Point pressure (6-C) is the Power Regulator. It meters out Power by sensing Clubhead Acceleration Rate and Direction. That is:
To vary the Effective Clubhead Mass, vary
1. The Acceleration Rate (Lag Pressure 7-11)
2. The Swing Radius (length of the Primary Lever Assembly 6-B-0)
To vary Clubhead Speed, vary
3. Acceleration Time (Length of the Stroke 10-21)
4. The Release Interval (Centrifugal Reaction 6-N-0)
So it is optional to use any one or any combination of the four alternatives. Also study 12-0 in this connection.


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Old 10-29-2009, 01:11 AM
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Reminds me of Bucket- very defined sit down action and passive legs.
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Old 10-29-2009, 06:01 AM
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Reminds me of Bucket- very defined sit down action and passive legs.
I forgot to ask, did you buy a "snow-mobile suit" yet?
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Old 10-29-2009, 03:32 PM
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I was fortunate enough to play with Brandon Inge yesterday. He is the Detroit Tiger 3rd baseman, all star team home run derby, 5 feet 6 rock hard forearms but otherwise not a big guy. He improved his batting this year by spending extra pre season time with the tiger hitting coach. Hit 27 home runs.
On number eight at Cliffs Falls South(Nicklaus) a dog leg around a lake he drove the ball over the lake from back tees to a green 383 yard away and went off the back. !!!!!
He said he plants his feet and leads with his right elbow. Then snaps the whip. Talked about how he could hit it as far as bigger guys like Carbera
it was awesome. Hope to get more info later
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Old 10-29-2009, 06:06 PM
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Awesome skill. He can probably hit a tomato farther than my Drive.

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