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Old 08-09-2009, 08:14 PM
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It's good to listen to opposite positions, especially when they are so convinced the other is in error. Whatever.

Mr no COAM ever, I applaud your talk, even if you unwisely dismiss the presence of data and the implications it may have for how to train for a golf swing.

Daryl, and I think this is the point of Bio, did Homer ever explain how his insights were to be incorporated into the movement patterns of each person? The semantics of "physics" or "geometry" aside, each person moves the club using their nervous system and muscles which must be ordered in a sequence.

Bio suggests a way to measure and train movement to produce optimal (based on measurements) club head speed AND injury risk, based on the data of many previous measured case examples.

Agree or disagree with the terminology if you like but I for one can see the benefit of the diagnosis and training of specific movement patterns for golf.

Daryl, maybe you are lucky enough to not need this as you intuitively found an efficient pattern. I have not been screened but from the little freely available information and some cheaply available, I have learned enough to know that in conjunction with TGM instruction my understanding and ability to golf is enhanced immensely.
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Old 08-09-2009, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by manko65 View Post

Daryl, and I think this is the point of Bio, did Homer ever explain how his insights were to be incorporated into the movement patterns of each person?
Actually, yes. And while reviewing the following quote, please notice that Homer displays his poetic sense of humor.

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The program for solid progress is the acquisition of one factor at a time. Starting any place. But preferably at one end of the machine or the other – the clubface or the feet. Preferably the feet. At the Driving Range or Golf Course. Preferably at the Driving Range. With or without professional instruction. Preferable with. Advisedly with! Imploredly with!!!

Then the fitting, adjusting and aligning are continually rechecked and refined toward “zero deviation” from the ideal, for every item listed on the selected Stroke Patterns – over and over – with steady, satisfying improvement. Basics, as well as Variations, are always interpreted and adjusted to the requirements of the governing Stroke Pattern as a whole.
Bold by daryl

In other words, Homer is imploring you to, Start from the ground up at a driving range with a qualified TGM Instructor.

Why take a lesson in Pivot Controlled Hands when you can take a lesson in Hands Controlled Pivot?

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Old 08-09-2009, 10:11 PM
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Daryl, this IS what Bio does. He works from the feet as it said was preferable in bold by you. He works closely WITH his students to achieve this as you said. He works his way up the link/zones with a series of progressive skills training to create a movement that creates power through a repeatable swing. From there either the hands or the pivot could be in control, up to the individual I'd say. If that basis is established then great things can be achieved using the mechanics of TGM, look at Brian Gay, he did it in this order from what I understand.
The main issue for me is also movement with the least risk of injury! I have a bad back but am playing powerful pain free golf with these better movement patterns, also much better golf. I am experiencing steady, extremely satisfying improvement.
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