It's pretty windy those days here near Paris and the greens where I play are pretty hard and rolling.
Under these conditions, the priority is to be consistent: to achieve consistency we must not allow the wind to catch the ball and play with it.
Therefore, the solution is to hit it low - Ok, sorry, everyone knows that!
But low trajectories on hard greens can only stick with tons of backspin applied to the ball.
So the solution for me is to hit strong punch shots - short backswing, short followthrough with a strong downward blow!
You talk about "doing smoother punch shots with the wedges" but I think you will still hit it too high with not enough backspin.
How about taking, say, a 9 iron instead of a SW and punch it strong with a half lengh stroke? Should do the same yardage but with a lower trajectory and lots of sticky backspin?
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It's pretty windy those days here near Paris and the greens where I play are pretty hard and rolling.
Under these conditions, the priority is to be consistent: to achieve consistency we must not allow the wind to catch the ball and play with it.
Therefore, the solution is to hit it low - Ok, sorry, everyone knows that!
But low trajectories on hard greens can only stick with tons of backspin applied to the ball.
So the solution for me is to hit strong punch shots - short backswing, short followthrough with a strong downward blow!
You talk about "doing smoother punch shots with the wedges" but I think you will still hit it too high with not enough backspin.
How about taking, say, a 9 iron instead of a SW and punch it strong with a half lengh stroke? Should do the same yardage but with a lower trajectory and lots of sticky backspin?
you nailed the problem I'm having. A hard punch with a wedge goes high enough that the wind plays with it, smooth shoots don't hold the small, hard greens. I like the idea of the hard, punched half strokes; I'll give it a try, thanks!
not really a conventionnalist, but i usually just take more club and dont change much of anything, maybe a tad smoother swing.
That's exactly what I do on a 'normal' course, but it's not worked well at all on the course I've been playing. The greens don't hold without lots of spin, and since the greens are mounded, running the ball onto the green is very unreliable. I can usually get away with that technique in a 10-15 mph wind; it's when the wind really starts blowing that I'm chipping onto the green all day.
It blows like heck here in Oklahoma...with very little to break the wind. Monday the gusts were almost up to 40 mph. Trying to take the backspin off it as you say does not help in terms of holding greens so I approach wind shots a little differently. I hit controlled pull shots. Shut face...shaft lean = low and left...I just adjust to accomodate the pull. I hit low screamers with more backspin than I get from low speed knuckle-ball version. It feels like I am coming over the top of it with a closed clubface i.e. pretty easy move to make!
It blows like heck here in Oklahoma...with very little to break the wind. Monday the gusts were almost up to 40 mph. Trying to take the backspin off it as you say does not help in terms of holding greens so I approach wind shots a little differently. I hit controlled pull shots. Shut face...shaft lean = low and left...I just adjust to accomodate the pull. I hit low screamers with more backspin than I get from low speed knuckle-ball version. It feels like I am coming over the top of it with a closed clubface i.e. pretty easy move to make!
Very interesting, I'll give it a try asap!
From your description I assume this will put a draw spin on the ball: Won't that make it roll more when it touches the green?
Why not using the fade version of this shot? A low punched cut? I should stick a lot better?
However, if you really hit TRUE pull shots (ball going left with no sidespin) with 10-5-C (closed stance) why not using a less lofted club with 10-5-A (square) ?
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Very interesting, I'll give it a try asap!
From your description I assume this will put a draw spin on the ball: Won't that make it roll more when it touches the green?
Why not using the fade version of this shot? A low punched cut? I should stick a lot better?
However, if you really hit TRUE pull shots (ball going left with no sidespin) with 10-5-C (closed stance) why not using a less lofted club with 10-5-A (square) ?
For ME, it is key not to overdo the closed clubface. The more left the face looks the more likely you are to put hook spin on it, and the tougher it is to come completely over the top of it. I believe this is the logic behind closed faced drivers. I am a bit obsessive about seeing the straight plane line. I do not pull the trigger until I can "see" it (OK I do on occassion but it ain't pretty) To have little or no sidespin (which is desirable into the wind) I focus on the leading edge of the club and then construct a line perpindicular to it i.e. my plane line. I then do my best to trace that line. It results in a lower pull shot...which I am aiming for. Yes, you absolutely can just hit it straight with a less lofted club, no doubt. I sheepishly have to admit to you that the OTT "feel" is easy to repeat. Of course I am not OTT of the plane line. Is is just something I figured out a while back. I do not yet and perhaps never will acquire the skill to amp down lag pressure on full golf shots...when it counts. Like Golfnome said most people hit it too hard up and downwind. The pull allows me to hit it hard and low. I do not think I play one round of golf without hitting at least 6 pully wind shots.
- short backswing, short followthrough with a strong downward blow!
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