Keeping the right forearm on-plane

[Jeff]

Kevin

I think that you may have misunderstood the primary intent behind my statement when I stated-: "However, that doesn't mean that swinging like Brian Gay is desirable or better than alternative choices."

You highlighted in bold the first section of that sentence regarding "desirability". It was my mistake to phrase the statement in that manner because it gives readers the incorrect impression that I do not think it is desirable - which wasn't my intention. I mainly wanted to state that it is not necessarily more-or-less desirable than swings that have slightly more plane shift - like Stuart Appleby's swing. Brian Gay has a wonderful swing that is very TGM-sound, as is Stuart Appleby's swing. I think that the question as to whether an individual golfer should chose the Brian Gay model or the Stuart Appleby model is significantly dependent on body physique and biomechanical predispositions (strengths and weaknesses).

Jeff.

[KevCarter]

Kevin

I think that you may have misunderstood the primary intent behind my statement when I stated-: "However, that doesn't mean that swinging like Brian Gay is desirable or better than alternative choices."

You highlighted in bold the first section of that sentence regarding "desirability". It was my mistake to phrase the statement in that manner because it gives readers the incorrect impression that I do not think it is desirable - which wasn't my intention. I mainly wanted to state that it is not necessarily more-or-less desirable than swings that have slightly more plane shift - like Stuart Appleby's swing. Brian Gay has a wonderful swing that is very TGM-sound, as is Stuart Appleby's swing. I think that the question as to whether an individual golfer should chose the Brian Gay model or the Stuart Appleby model is significantly dependent on body physique and biomechanical predispositions (strengths and weaknesses).

Jeff.

Jeff,

Thank you very much for clearing that up for me! I did take your statement the wrong way. Jeff Evans, another TGM teacher who I respect immensely, is trying to teach me how to set up with my right forearm positioned like Mr. Gay. My old fat body won't quite allow it. Maybe when I lose 100 pounds!

I agree 100%, a valid option, but just that, an option. I like the way YODA says it in the video, you can certainly set up without your right forearm on plane, but why would you want to?

Thanks man,
Kevin

[mb6606]

Jeff,

Thank you very much for clearing that up for me! I did take your statement the wrong way. Jeff Evans, another TGM teacher who I respect immensely, is trying to teach me how to set up with my right forearm positioned like Mr. Gay. My old fat body won't quite allow it. Maybe when I lose 100 pounds!

I agree 100%, a valid option, but just that, an option. I like the way YODA says it in the video, you can certainly set up without your right forearm on plane, but why would you want to?

Thanks man,
Kevin

Using the desirable Turned Shoulder plane - I have yet to see anyone setup
truly on plane and not shift planes. You would have to match Dianne in the picture 10-6-B #1. Most setup closer to the elbow plane 10-6-A #1 and shift to the TSP.

[KevCarter]

Using the desirable Turned Shoulder plane - I have yet to see anyone setup
truly on plane and not shift planes. You would have to match Dianne in the picture 10-6-B #1. Most setup closer to the elbow plane 10-6-A #1 and shift to the TSP.

Agreed.

Thanks,
Kevin

[Jeff]

mb6606

Have you ever considered why golfers do not setup like Diane in 10-6-B?

Note that her right upper arm is along/parallel to the TSP. I think that it is biomechanically very difficult to fold the right elbow to achieve the desired right forearm flying wedge position with the hands behind the right shoulder at the end of the backswing - when starting with the right upper arm in that position. It is much easier when the right upper arm hangs down vertically - as in 10-6-A.

You used the word "desirable" with respect to the TSP. In what sense is the TSP desirable? Is it from the backswing and/or downswing perspective? Is it from a end-backswing or impact perspective?

Jeff.

[mb6606]

mb6606

Have you ever considered why golfers do not setup like Diane in 10-6-B?

Note that her right upper arm is along/parallel to the TSP. I think that it is biomechanically very difficult to fold the right elbow to achieve the desired right forearm flying wedge position with the hands behind the right shoulder at the end of the backswing - when starting with the right upper arm in that position. It is much easier when the right upper arm hangs down vertically - as in 10-6-A.

You used the word "desirable" with respect to the TSP. In what sense is the TSP desirable? Is it from the backswing and/or downswing perspective? Is it from a end-backswing or impact perspective?

Jeff.

Try to setup like 10-6-b #1 and see how natural, relaxed and comfortable you feel.
Desirable = 12-1-0 and 12-2-0.

[Jeff]

mb6606

I do not disagree that setting up as 10-6-B #1 is comfortable. However, I cannot perform the correct right elbow folding action in a comfortable biomechanical manner that allows me to get my right forearm flying wedge to its desired location relative to my right shoulder - when I start from that address position.

I am curious - why do you believe that zero plane shift on the turned shoulder plane is desirable?

Also, could you please supply me with a list of about five PGA tour players who follow your recommended zero plane shift TSP pattern?

Thanks,

Jeff.