Denny I agree with you that a shiftless plane is very hard to achieve......I like to use the explanar to teach the flying wedeges. I show my student the wedges on a horizontal surface and then I have them roll them up and down the Explanar. Without the explanar plane shifts do show up, however it is very hard for the student to get excessive right wrist bend on the explanar.
The problem with training aids is that you can find flaws for alot of them......I use training aids for what I need and then set it aside. Having a giant cirle right next to me helps me explain The Golfing Machine conceptualy a lot better.
Sorting Through the Instructors Textbook.
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Apologies in advance for resurrecting an old thread. I am very intrigued by this swing plane device, similar to one Martin Hall used on the Golf Channel.
Apologies in advance for resurrecting an old thread. I am very intrigued by this swing plane device, similar to one Martin Hall used on the Golf Channel.
Anyone have experience with this? Worthwhile for a teacher? Other, better ideas?
Thanks,
Kevin
Hi Kevin,
Martin Hall uses the one from pvcsports. He used at the PGA Teaching & Coaching Summit, that i attended in 2006. I use it myself and find it very useful because it allows the club to lie flat on the plane. Other single rail plane devices can let the club travel off plane. Also, it is lightweight and easy to move around, can be stored easily, and is adjustable to accomadate different planes.
You may want to check out mikebender.com. Under training aids Mike has plans for a swing plane board, for $12.95. I have used it at his academy and it is ajustable to allow use of different clubs. I built one using his plans a few years ago for about $125. It weathered (spending 9 months of the year totally exposed to the elements) well for a couple of years, but I finally had to retire it. It is mobile, but being made of would, it is heavy.
Either way it is almost a necessity to have a swing plane board. Personally, I cannot think of a way to give student a clearer image of the swing plane. Hopefully you will find something useful from this post.
Martin Hall uses the one from pvcsports. He used at the PGA Teaching & Coaching Summit, that i attended in 2006. I use it myself and find it very useful because it allows the club to lie flat on the plane. Other single rail plane devices can let the club travel off plane. Also, it is lightweight and easy to move around, can be stored easily, and is adjustable to accomadate different planes.
You may want to check out mikebender.com. Under training aids Mike has plans for a swing plane board, for $12.95. I have used it at his academy and it is ajustable to allow use of different clubs. I built one using his plans a few years ago for about $125. It weathered (spending 9 months of the year totally exposed to the elements) well for a couple of years, but I finally had to retire it. It is mobile, but being made of would, it is heavy.
Either way it is almost a necessity to have a swing plane board. Personally, I cannot think of a way to give student a clearer image of the swing plane. Hopefully you will find something useful from this post.
Sligo33,
Thank you Sir for the detailed answer. I agree, I HAVE to have a plane board. I will check out Mike's website as well. I appreciate the help!
Kevin
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I make a simple board out of two 4' x 8' sheets of styrofoam building insualtion. Layed one on top of the other and cut a circle using a cheap soldering iron. I duct taped the two pieces together and use dowels to prop it up. It can also be used standing on end so you can find the true turned shoulder plane on the backswing. You build another half and duct tape together making a complete plane board.
Pretty simple, cheap and lightweight. Not exactly portable or sturdy for commercial use. You could make it sturdier by gluing with contact cement a piece of plywood to the back.
I make a simple board out of two 4' x 8' sheets of styrofoam building insualtion. Layed one on top of the other and cut a circle using a cheap soldering iron. I duct taped the two pieces together and use dowels to prop it up. It can also be used standing on end so you can find the true turned shoulder plane on the backswing. You build another half and duct tape together making a complete plane board.
Pretty simple, cheap and lightweight. Not exactly portable or sturdy for commercial use. You could make it sturdier by gluing with contact cement a piece of plywood to the back.
Thanks Mb6606,
I own a hammer and a screw driver. Not sure when to use which? Basically, I'm a mechanical idiot. I'm thinking I am going to go ahead and purchase the one made from pvc pipe. It actually seems very reasonable at $249, and looks very professional. I found Bender's book for making one, but I need to move it constantly, and with my old farts back, I want something very light like the pvc built plane board.
Thanks guys for spending the time helping with ideas. Very much appreciated!
Kevin
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I've been working for years on such a device. As soon as I get the patent process started, I'll o.k. it with Lynn and use this site to unveil it to everyone.
It will fit in the trunk of a car, and you'll be able to hit balls with it.
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I had one made at an upholstery shop out of marine vinyl over heavy foam. I think it was $85. It's held up well. Any decent car upholstery shop could do it.
Picture a right angle triangle (a2+b2=c2).
The a2 part is fixed at 14.5" and the shaft plane c2 is 20". b2 is adjustable for different lie angles.
I had one made at an upholstery shop out of marine vinyl over heavy foam. I think it was $85. It's held up well. Any decent car upholstery shop could do it.
Picture a right angle triangle (a2+b2=c2).
The a2 part is fixed at 14.5" and the shaft plane c2 is 20". b2 is adjustable for different lie angles.
Martin,
What length do you use (Plane Line length) and what lie angle you find most beneficial? I use PVC which adapts for all club lie angles, but is to cumbersome to transport.
Basically, I'm a mechanical idiot. I'm thinking I am going to go ahead and purchase the one made from pvc pipe. It actually seems very reasonable at $249, and looks very professional. I found Bender's book for making one, but I need to move it constantly, and with my old farts back, I want something very light like the pvc built plane board.
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