Pure would not Austin still have snapped the kinetic chain...whatever that is
His right hand may have been driving/accelerating baton twirling but would not the left arm slow down at release?
How does the Caesar of Rome snap his kinetic chain?
The Caésar of Burning Rome would have us believe the rock gets thrown because the hands slow down.
I believe the rock gets thrown because we let it go.
What causes the hands to slow is an inability of the human motor to generate the required force. The required force (to the keep the hands moving fast) as the club releases, begins to increase. The club is pushing back on the hands.
Some golfers foolishly follow their instructors' advice and intentionally try to slow their hands. I'm saying the dynamics are such that hand slowing can/does occur and that is does not mean momentum is being transferred in the convention (impact) sense. It simply means there's not enough horsepower available to keep them moving at the same speed. The cg of the club has moved away the center of rotation and therefore inertia has increases... more torque is needed... more horsepower.
The Caésar of Burning Rome would have us believe the rock gets thrown because the hands slow down.
I believe the rock gets thrown because we let it go.
What causes the hands to slow is an inability of the human motor to generate the required force. The required force (to the keep the hands moving fast) as the club releases, begins to increase. The club is pushing back on the hands.
Some golfers foolishly follow their instructors' advice and intentionally try to slow their hands. I'm saying the dynamics are such that hand slowing can/does occur and that is does not mean momentum is being transferred in the convention (impact) sense. It simply means there's not enough horsepower available to keep them moving at the same speed. The cg of the club has moved away the center of rotation and therefore inertia has increases... more torque is needed... more horsepower.
Well- you implied and always bring him up. I don't traffic his web site for over 2 yrs now. I have read posts of yours on fgi and other forums praising him as the one AI who knows it all (and beyond.)
Is this what you think the magic of the right forearm is.
Bending + fanning = right forearm takeaway
So, what are the correct muscles, bones and joints used to perform it?
The right shoulder joint and the muscles involved to move the upper arm have a key role in the magic of the right forearm.
The fanning motion you are talking about is from the rotator cuff muscles in the right shoulder rotating the upper arm
When you learn how the body moves you will understand.
I know that my mind is in my mittens....and on most occassion I have no trouble taking my forearm (with its side-kick...the golf club) up, back and in to my chosen top location. I am tracing a straight plane line the whole way in anticipation of destroying the same on the way down, out and forward. Perhpas knowing the muscular progeniture of this "magic" would have accelarated my progress. Except it came in the form of "fanning" sans-club, "fanning" with a kid's plastic club, "fanning" with a dowel, finally "fanning" with an implement ill suited for the task! I tend to use RFT and "fanning" interchangeable because I am such a big....FAN!
With all due respect I do not have to know a darn thing about the muscles to be able to have a three dimensional interaction with the ball! Geometry of the circle and the phsyics of rotation is about as deep as Okie wants to go! Forgive my narrow mindedness.
David Orr's explanation was sufficient...making special note that the hand originates it all.
I know that my mind is in my mittens....and on most occassion I have no trouble taking my forearm (with its side-kick...the golf club) up, back and in to my chosen top location. I am tracing a straight plane line the whole way in anticipation of destroying the same on the way down, out and forward. Perhpas knowing the muscular progeniture of this "magic" would have accelarated my progress. Except it came in the form of "fanning" sans-club, "fanning" with a kid's plastic club, "fanning" with a dowel, finally "fanning" with an implement ill suited for the task! I tend to use RFT and "fanning" interchangeable because I am such a big....FAN!
With all due respect I do not have to know a darn thing about the muscles to be able to have a three dimensional interaction with the ball! Geometry of the circle and the phsyics of rotation is about as deep as Okie wants to go! Forgive my narrow mindedness.
David Orr's explanation was sufficient...making special note that the hand originates it all.
Okie i understand you and been down that road you are at . But one day the thruth will set you free and i am not saying what you are doing is wrong. But in my opinion you are ready for the final stepping stone
Well- you implied and always bring him up. I don't traffic his web site for over 2 yrs now. I have read posts of yours on fgi and other forums praising him as the one AI who knows it all (and beyond.)
I never said he knew it all but I thought he knew enough. That was before I knew what he was trying to do. I thought he was an ok dude? I was wrong and I admit it. Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice shame on me.
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Okie i understand you and been down that road you are at . But one day the thruth will set you free and i am not saying what you are doing is wrong. But in my opinion you are ready for the final stepping stone
Well, that just makes me M.O.R.A.D I have checked out the Dark Side a bit. Of course if that is not what you are referring to then throw me a frikkin' bone will ya! Golf has removed (painfully) all dignity and pride. I am teachable...but don't be a tease!
Well, that just makes me M.O.R.A.D I have checked out the Dark Side a bit. Of course if that is not what you are referring to then throw me a frikkin' bone will ya! Golf has removed (painfully) all dignity and pride. I am teachable...but don't be a tease!
Ya gonna spill the pintos, or what? Give me a primer of sorts, please. I promise not to tell anybody!
I have checked out the Dark Side a bit. Of course if that is not what you are referring to then throw me a frikkin' bone will ya!
Golf has removed (painfully) all dignity and pride. I am teachable...but don't be a tease! 
Give me a primer of sorts, please. I promise not to tell anybody!
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