I guess if it was that simple then we can eliminate most of the discussion on this forum!
Would you say most people push and pull with their full swings regardless of feel?
Hard to say what most people do . . . I'd say that most people probably do. But how could you ever measure it? Even Ted who is a carnivorous Hitter has a Swinger's start down by admission I think.
Do you think the club and ball knows if you pushed it, pulled it, or did both?
I get the feeling that with this line of questioning somebody may be trying to get me to paint myself into a corner. But I don't really have no corner. I think there are certainly forces that act upon the shaft in certain directions. I don't know much about all that but I would say that the force acting on the shaft that has the sweetspot in line is different than one that ain't.
Why don't you tell me what you think? I probably would agree with you.
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Hard to say what most people do . . . I'd say that most people probably do. But how could you ever measure it? Even Ted who is a carnivorous Hitter has a Swinger's start down by admission I think.
Do you think the club and ball knows if you pushed it, pulled it, or did both?
The ball knows everything about the clubhead (speed, angle of attack, etc.) during impact, but it has no idea how it got there.
Measure right arm activity?
Measure the forces on the club at start down?
I agree with your comment about Ted. But he really does feel like he's using his right arm and not "spinning the flywheel". Does that make him more of a Hitter than someone who do not experience these feels?
I reckon (but have no data unfortunately) a lot of tour players out there who would be classified as Swingers actually have a lot of right arm activity during their downstroke. Whether they are consious about it or not is another thing.
The ball knows everything about the clubhead (speed, angle of attack, etc.) during impact, but it has no idea how it got there.
Measure right arm activity?
Measure the forces on the club at start down?
I agree with your comment about Ted. But he really does feel like he's using his right arm and not "spinning the flywheel". Does that make him more of a Hitter than someone who do not experience these feels?
I reckon (but have no data unfortunately) a lot of tour players out there who would be classified as Swingers actually have a lot of right arm activity during their downstroke. Whether they are consious about it or not is another thing.
I'd say the shaft definitely has some sort of different loading characteristics depending on the relation of the sweetspot to it.
"2-M-4 BODY POWER ...To clear the fog, consider Pivot Thrust as Body Power blasting the Swinger’s essentially inert Left Arm into orbit toward Impact. Or, as supplying the initial acceleration of the Hitters loaded Power Package so the Clubhead can be endowed with Pivot Speed PLUS Right Triceps Speed."
I think much is lost if the patterns are considered opposites. They are alike in many ways.
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