In watching professional swings. I have noticed something.
Players with more forward hip slide on the downswing tend to have a sweepier release, while those who have little apparent hip slide look to have a snappier release.
I noticed this when we were discussing the differences between Zach & Boo.
Does the amount of hip slide on the downswing "pre-determine" the type of release we have?
In watching professional swings. I have noticed something.
Players with more forward hip slide on the downswing tend to have a sweepier release, while those who have little apparent hip slide look to have a snappier release.
I noticed this when we were discussing the differences between Zach & Boo.
Does the amount of hip slide on the downswing "pre-determine" the type of release we have?
What is the release sequence?
What does hip slide do?
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Last edited by 12 piece bucket : 02-14-2008 at 10:05 AM.
In watching professional swings. I have noticed something.
Players with more forward hip slide on the downswing tend to have a sweepier release, while those who have little apparent hip slide look to have a snappier release.
I noticed this when we were discussing the differences between Zach & Boo.
Does the amount of hip slide on the downswing "pre-determine" the type of release we have?
In watching professional swings. I have noticed something.
Players with more forward hip slide on the downswing tend to have a sweepier release, while those who have little apparent hip slide look to have a snappier release.
I noticed this when we were discussing the differences between Zach & Boo.
Does the amount of hip slide on the downswing "pre-determine" the type of release we have?
How about discussing the issue of balance in release and hip slide....
I think that if I slide to the target too much (weight going towards target)...then there is a natural reflex to stay in balance... and that means throwing something in the other direction to maintain your sense of balance.... and for many that means throwing the clubhead away from the target...an early release and ...probably off plane as well.... so exaccerbating balance problems...
It always fascinated mem how Hogans targetwards hip slide is combined with his hands moving away from the target... i think that this can be thought of as a balance thing... he might feel the pressure in his feet move to the left foot more than the right...but his sense of Centre of gravity - i think / hypothesise - is fairly central...maybe....
Look at Hogan at End of backswing
Note the position of his pp3 in relation to his right foot. About 2-3 inches target side of right foot instep.
Look at Hogan into his downswing move/transition finished and note his PP3 has moved about 2-3 inxhes away from the target and lies level with right instep...I think that this is balance related.
The photos were not (as far as I know) a single sequence, and so are open to critisism about camera angles etc... so...try it...do your slide and compare an "early release feel" with a "hands away from target feel"... only one of the above allows you to maintain a sense of balance into the downswing IMO...
Of course, this move of hands away from target is when Longitudinal pull off the shaft is most obvious...real arrow from quiver stuff... but it also maintains balance IMO...
How about discussing the issue of balance in release and hip slide....
I think that if I slide to the target too much (weight going towards target)...then there is a natural reflex to stay in balance... and that means throwing something in the other direction to maintain your sense of balance.... and for many that means throwing the clubhead away from the target...an early release and ...probably off plane as well.... so exaccerbating balance problems...
It always fascinated mem how Hogans targetwards hip slide is combined with his hands moving away from the target... i think that this can be thought of as a balance thing... he might feel the pressure in his feet move to the left foot more than the right...but his sense of Centre of gravity - i think / hypothesise - is fairly central...maybe....
Look at Hogan at End of backswing
Note the position of his pp3 in relation to his right foot. About 2-3 inches target side of right foot instep.
Look at Hogan into his downswing move/transition finished and note his PP3 has moved about 2-3 inxhes away from the target and lies level with right instep...I think that this is balance related.
The photos were not (as far as I know) a single sequence, and so are open to critisism about camera angles etc... so...try it...do your slide and compare an "early release feel" with a "hands away from target feel"... only one of the above allows you to maintain a sense of balance into the downswing IMO...
With that big shift and all that trigger delay Hogan had to pretty much get "on top of it" and open up to keep his hands from getting stuck behind him. I know he moves right but he gets his head back to the left and opens up. If his head stayed back there he'd never get to the ball and would have to do some crazy stuff with his hands to get to low point.
After the wreck his swing tightened up and his arms seemed to work with his body better. This cat Slice Fixer made a good point about his motion. Basically his arm swing stops when his pivot stops so you don't have the arms continuing back several frames in a video. He makes the point that if your arms keep going you have to "make up those frames" by doing something compensatory. I think that is a valid point FOR THE PLANE HOGAN SWINGS ON. As fast as Hogan goes forward and left you'd think it would be critical for him to have his arms staying with his body from a timing stand point and a "connection" stand point.
That may not be the case for steep planes. Still thinking about that one.
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