how did you manage in a short time to change his swing to an onplane phenom? Would you mind sharing what you mean by extremes? very cool, thanks
He had Turning in the Backstroke, but he started Rolling between Top and End. I have no idea how he acquired this motion, nor did he.
We used some simple thoughts: 1. with flashlights on both ends of the club, attempting to point the grip end outside the Plane Line, 2. trying to point the club directly behind him (feeling perpendicular to the Plane) instead of parallel to the Plane Line at End
Since he had obviously never tried to accomplish #2, he understood why he never would have made the change. It was this feeling that we captured on video.
He hated the feel. But, when he saw the results, he was totally willing to practice this way until we meet again. I believe that it's the willingness to go to the extremes that gets immediate change.
But, when he saw the results, he was totally willing to practice this way until we meet again.QUOTE]
YL,
Are you talking about ballflight results here
compared to
the results as seen through "the one eyed monster"
Mainly the visual results...
He hit some very well, but he missed just as many. That's the hard thing about practicing something so new and so different. He made some great swings and at times he almost missed the ball completely. His downstroke had previously been built around compensation, so he had to learn the new path to the ball.
[quote=YodasLuke;46389], 2. trying to point the club directly behind him (feeling perpendicular to the Plane) instead of parallel to the Plane Line at End
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thank you for you answer, i was attracted to this thread by his initial motion, that ressembles myself in a way, but the downstroke is different.
I've done the flashlights and planeboard many a time, but the extreme feel difference just is not there. So i go back to my regular scheduled program...lol.
now your description of perpendicular the the plane is interesting to my noodle this mo. I'm not sure i understand correctly the trying to point the club directly behind him part, do you mean at startup? at end?
, 2. trying to point the club directly behind him (feeling perpendicular to the Plane) instead of parallel to the Plane Line at End
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thank you for you answer, i was attracted to this thread by his initial motion, that ressembles myself in a way, but the downstroke is different.
I've done the flashlights and planeboard many a time, but the extreme feel difference just is not there. So i go back to my regular scheduled program...lol.
now your description of perpendicular the the plane is interesting to my noodle this mo. I'm not sure i understand correctly the trying to point the club directly behind him part, do you mean at startup? at end?
thanks for getting the wheels turning!
If someone was standing directly behind your back at Address (looking at the back of your head, not down the line), it would be the feeling of pointing the clubhead at them at End. That's what got the change.
If someone was standing directly behind your back at Address (looking at the back of your head, not down the line), it would be the feeling of pointing the clubhead at them at End. That's what got the change.
Another less extreme way to do this is to attempt to keep the butt of the club pointing at the plane line...at the top and even at the end.
Whatever works is what is important.
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the blue line that you have drawn, is that the turned shoulder plane?
Is the goal to get the shaft, hands, right forearm, and right shoulder all on the the turned shoulder plane at impact?
Yes, that is correct. And the #3 pressure point, the proximal phalanx of the right index finger.
Note the right forearm is a little under the line. Seems to me he's a bit too squared away for impact.
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