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Old 05-30-2007, 10:36 PM
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I'm sure Homer and Tommy are looking down at this in disgust.

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You are sure? Evidence?
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Old 05-30-2007, 10:44 PM
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Hang in there 6B and DG.

There is still a lot about Tommy we are trying to distill and figure out.

Deep breaths, keeper going if you can.
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Old 05-30-2007, 10:47 PM
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You are sure? Evidence?
During my three day school, Tomasello made references to Homer looking down. While teaching me the magic of the right forearm.....Tommy made the comment, I know Homer's looking down and saying, yes, it can be that easy.

I figure if Homer was looking down in 1993, I'm pretty sure they're both looking down now in between golf shots and getting a kick out of all this non-sense surrounding the little yellow book.

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Old 05-30-2007, 11:20 PM
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Hula Hula
BTW, HULA HULA is a Component 14 concept.....not a component 15 concept. See 7-14. I see no issue with the Hula Hula and what Tomasello said about there being no seperation between the hips and shoulders....as 7-14 says....independent but coordinated.

Debating TGM is starting to feel good again.

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Old 05-30-2007, 11:24 PM
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During my three day school, Tomasello made references to Homer looking down. While teaching me the magic of the right forearm.....Tommy made the comment, I know Homer's looking down and saying, yes, it can be that easy.

I figure if Homer was looking down in 1993, I'm pretty they're both looking down now in between golf shots and getting a kick out of all this non-sense surounding the little yellow book.

DG
Pretty creepy bringing up TT and HK that way. Dude- tell a pill.



Here are a few things Homer wrote about the Pivot, Lag and stroke sequence. It differs from some beliefs posted above by others- I guess I just misinterpret again.

8. Hip Slide starts the down swing. (from a stroke sequence list)

Keep your body ahead of your hands and your hands ahead of the club. (that is one leading the other the right order.)

Educated Hands are those that can feel the resistance of motion --
CLUBHEAD lag. (that happens when fully loaded- Pivot and Accumulator Lag)

5. Improve one step at a time, start with the pivot. (that important, it is , yes)

Hula Hula - This flexibility allows the right forearm to remain on
plane and keeps the shoulder motion and hip motion independent. Keep these (2) separate. (not what DG reports and see SEC- it allows the right forearm magic to remain on plane- that is what the Man said- no me)

A sharp Backstroke Turn, a Downstroke Hip Slide only, (before the Arm Motion begins) encourages "On Plane" Pivot alignments.
So its - Turn, Slide, Swing. (lets see- a RFT, then a DS Hip Slide BEFORE Arm Motion begins to encourage ON PLANE Pivot alignments- Geez that Homer was a rebel. DG says no way. )

Careful:

Aiming Point - At the Top of the Backstroke - even at the End -
mentally construct a line from the Hands to the Aiming Point. Let a
careful Downstroke Pivot move the Hands precisely along this line
they will "feel" as though they remain at the top of the Stroke. Don't question that Feel - just sustain (monitor) it, all ready for Release at the preselected Release Point. Drive the Hands (Clubhead Feel) "down the line" until both arms are straight, NO QUITTING! This procedure merely utilizes a long used method for drawing freehand straight lines between two points. Using the Clubshaft as the pencil is an effective equivalent.

(Holy Fudge- Downstroke Pivot moves the Hands- WTF is Homer doing here. Okay it is a well trained and fairly careful Downstroke Pivot but move the Hands?? And they will ‘feel’ like they remained at the top- question not- just sustain and monitor the “it” and get ready for release and then drive the Hands in a down the line until both are straight? Homer, what are you saying? That the Hands are clamps before release?)


But Homer is all wrong, right?
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Old 05-30-2007, 11:34 PM
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Pretty creepy bringing up TT and HK that way. Dude- tell a pill.



Here are a few things Homer wrote about the Pivot, Lag and stroke sequence. It differs from some beliefs posted above by others- I guess I just misinterpret again.

8. Hip Slide starts the down swing. (from a stroke sequence list)

Keep your body ahead of your hands and your hands ahead of the club. (that is one leading the other the right order.)

Educated Hands are those that can feel the resistance of motion --
CLUBHEAD lag. (that happens when fully loaded- Pivot and Accumulator Lag)

5. Improve one step at a time, start with the pivot. (that important, it is , yes)

Hula Hula - This flexibility allows the right forearm to remain on
plane and keeps the shoulder motion and hip motion independent. Keep these (2) separate. (not what DG reports and see SEC- it allows the right forearm magic to remain on plane- that is what the Man said- no me)

A sharp Backstroke Turn, a Downstroke Hip Slide only, (before the Arm Motion begins) encourages "On Plane" Pivot alignments.
So its - Turn, Slide, Swing. (lets see- a RFT, then a DS Hip Slide BEFORE Arm Motion begins to encourage ON PLANE Pivot alignments- Geez that Homer was a rebel. DG says no way. )

Careful:

Aiming Point - At the Top of the Backstroke - even at the End -
mentally construct a line from the Hands to the Aiming Point. Let a
careful Downstroke Pivot move the Hands precisely along this line
they will "feel" as though they remain at the top of the Stroke. Don't question that Feel - just sustain (monitor) it, all ready for Release at the preselected Release Point. Drive the Hands (Clubhead Feel) "down the line" until both arms are straight, NO QUITTING! This procedure merely utilizes a long used method for drawing freehand straight lines between two points. Using the Clubshaft as the pencil is an effective equivalent.

(Holy Fudge- Downstroke Pivot moves the Hands- WTF is Homer doing here. Okay it is a well trained and fairly careful Downstroke Pivot but move the Hands?? And they will ‘feel’ like they remained at the top- question not- just sustain and monitor the “it” and get ready for release and then drive the Hands in a down the line until both are straight? Homer, what are you saying? That the Hands are clamps before release?)


But Homer is all wrong, right?

You use Homer notes....I'll use the 7th edition. One big question, why don't those comments appear in the 7th edition. Geezzzz, I wonder why? Could they really be Homer's notes? In a pure sense of course....

DG

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Cheap shot in VAIN.
First let me say that I’m out of your Magic Kingdom. It was very self-centered to say Homer and Tom would be so disgusted at this. What I cheap shot taken in VAIN. Lynn- remember him- said that Homer loved questions. Question are earthquakes to you, Dg.

Second- those notes came from audio tapes of Master Classes taught by Homer. This is what Homer taught to his students. The 7th Edition- in my opinion - was not written entirely by Homer Kelley. Joe Daniels should have put his name on the book with Kelley’s.

I’m told 7-3 removed the word Magic- if the edition is so dear- drop the term.

One day you will might stop hiding behind Tom Tomesello.
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First let me say that I’m out of your Magic Kingdom. It was very self-centered to say Homer and Tom would be so disgusted at this. What I cheap shot taken in VAIN. Lynn- remember him- said that Homer loved questions. Question are earthquakes to you, Dg.

Second- those notes came from audio tapes of Master Classes taught by Homer. This is what Homer taught to his students. The 7th Edition- in my opinion - was not written entirely by Homer Kelley. Joe Daniels should have put his name on the book with Kelley’s.

I’m told 7-3 removed the word Magic- if the edition is so dear- drop the term.

One day you will might stop hiding behind Tom Tomesello.

Bottom line. You study with Lynn....I'll study what Tomasello taught me (the most efficient centrifugal force golf swing). Then maybe one day will meet up on the golf course and see who really kicks butt. As they say, the proof is in the pudding.

"I'm told 7-3 removed the word Magic" what are you trying to say there???

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Bottom line. You study with Lynn....I'll study what Tomasello taught me (the most efficient centrifugal force golf swing). Then maybe one day will meet up on the golf course and see who really kicks butt. As they say, the proof is in the pudding.

"I'm told 7-3 removed the word Magic" what are you trying to say there???

DG

I've been getting Pm's because few want to get involved with this thread for the umpth time. Me- I'm a just a jerk for responding to you.
Now I have to give someone by new sticks for this post but I have to know- all those Championships you tell us you won- what were they? And when are you defending them- I'd like to "watch you make a score" (to quote Homer from a master Class- not ever written in any edition). I surely can't compete against someone with your skills but heck- I can watch. Let me know.

Yes- Lynn has explained a lot of things for many. Maybe me, the least. But this is his forum. And I won't diss TT if he had one.


As for the Magic remark- as I said, I don't own the 7th- the book of Daniels. I was given bad information by those that PM'ed me. I should have known better.
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Then maybe one day will meet up on the golf course and see who really kicks butt. As they say, the proof is in the pudding.

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