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Old 10-21-2006, 03:33 PM
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Whether deliberate or not- I've seen Tiger and other players start walking to the next tee before the other player finishes his short putt. Looked rude to me. But could be just the way it's done on the PGA, could be subconscious, conscious - I don't know but certainly caught my eye at times. From all the sports that I have played - it's not how I would play the game and if you have to use that to win then it's not worth winning- I'll let the other guy try the games I just want to beat him "straight up"- so I'll just worry about keeping him out of my garden (mind) and not worry about getting in his.

Starting to get cold up there Birdie Man?

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Old 10-22-2006, 10:13 PM
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Ya now that you say it I've seen that too.

Personally, I would call him on it right to his face.

(very enthusiastic, genuine-sounding voice) "Hey Tiger man what's the rush?........can you hold on for a few seconds please?"



There is absolutely no way you can let him feel like he can get away with doing that to you.

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it's not how I would play the game and if you have to use that to win then it's not worth winning
I think I can relate to that. Why compromise yourself....your integrity....

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BTW Mr. O.....yes it is getting mighty cold up here....

I did get some golf in today....it was around 3 or 4 degrees outside (w/e that is Farenheit)...pretty chilly.....but do-able if you dress for it.

Most people cannot understand...!


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Old 10-23-2006, 08:58 AM
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Old 10-23-2006, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by birdie_man
it was around 3 or 4 degrees outside (w/e that is Farenheit)...pretty chilly.....but do-able if you dress for it.

Most people cannot understand...!

I was at the range last week; it was cold but I didn't think it was terrible. After I was about 1/2 way done, noticed there was some white stuff blowing about! That's pretty early in the year for snow here in Indiana.

More on topic...suckering some southern boy to come play golf up north this time of year seems like a good way to get a leg up. Although, I saw that video of Yoda busting his driver on a pretty cold day, so I think I'd target somebody besides him
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Old 07-08-2007, 05:58 PM
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Whether deliberate or not- I've seen Tiger and other players start walking to the next tee before the other player finishes his short putt. Looked rude to me. But could be just the way it's done on the PGA, could be subconscious, conscious - I don't know but certainly caught my eye at times. From all the sports that I have played - it's not how I would play the game and if you have to use that to win then it's not worth winning- I'll let the other guy try the games I just want to beat him "straight up"- so I'll just worry about keeping him out of my garden (mind) and not worry about getting in his.

Starting to get cold up there Birdie Man?

Mike O,

I've been reading through the Mental Game forum to see what's already been discussed. There's some great info in here. I'll post when I think I can add something.

Tour protocol says to stay with the group, only moving when the putt left is all but unmissable. There is no excuse for disturbing another player. What might disturb a particular player is very subjective. Of particular concern is signalling to the crowd that its ok to move by moving yourself. A major responsibility of the tour caddie is to make sure that the gallery does not distract his player.

I can't speak to what you saw, but I have seen Tiger and Steve help with crowd control while his opponent readied to putt. Unfortunately, courtesy is not one of the skill sets that land one on the Tour. There is a fair amount of peer pressure to behave.

Dominating while remaining a sportsman. It's really about competing. Answer with your clubs. Never back off. I don't see any defense for trying to put another player off his game other than frustrating him by making shots at critical times. You never know how your opponent might react to gamemanship. Guys have tried it with Tiger pre-round in the press and have been buried. You might awaken a player who had written himself off.

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Old 07-08-2007, 06:12 PM
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Dominating while remaining a sportsman. It's really about competing. Answer with your clubs. Never back off. I don't see any defense for trying to put another player off his game other than frustrating him by making shots at critical times. You never know how your opponent might react to gamemanship. Guys have tried it with Tiger pre-round in the press and have been buried. You might awaken a player who had written himself off.

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Henny.... thank you. Isn't that what the game is about? Don't we love the game, partially because it has a bit more integrity than most other games? Don't we all want to behave like we've graduated high school? Why would I ever want to delibrately do something that would annoy another player?

One of the great joys I've gotten from high level competition (state am. sen. am stuff) is the association with other good and much better players. I golf my ball, they golf theirs ... the best man wins... afterwards we have dinner.. the next year I see the same faces and we genuinely enjoy seeing and playing with each other.... why would I want to behave like a 4 yr. old and ruin that? ....anyone who would delibrately try to annoy another person in a feeble attempt to win....would look inadequate and foolish and needs some help.
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Old 07-08-2007, 11:17 PM
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Henny.... thank you. Isn't that what the game is about? Don't we love the game, partially because it has a bit more integrity than most other games? Don't we all want to behave like we've graduated high school? Why would I ever want to delibrately do something that would annoy another player?

One of the great joys I've gotten from high level competition (state am. sen. am stuff) is the association with other good and much better players. I golf my ball, they golf theirs ... the best man wins... afterwards we have dinner.. the next year I see the same faces and we genuinely enjoy seeing and playing with each other.... why would I want to behave like a 4 yr. old and ruin that? ....anyone who would delibrately try to annoy another person in a feeble attempt to win....would look inadequate and foolish and needs some help.
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