LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Geometry of the circle and how it applies to shot shaping . Thread: Geometry of the circle and how it applies to shot shaping . View Single Post #93 12-24-2012, 01:03 PM O.B.Left Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,433 Originally Posted by Daryl O.B. What point are you trying to make these last 4 posts? Are you trying to show that a ball played in the middle of your stance can't be hit straight? No. Is there a problem with any of those drawings to your mind? If so change them. We're in the Lab . Lets experiment, theorize , deduce, extrapolate , make mistakes and mix up some home made cocktails in beakers. Divergence between path and face angle produces curved ball flight. Steeper plane angles have less divergence . Less OUT , more Down. Lofted clubs have steeper lie angles , steeper assosciated plane angles. It seems to me that the model , (the stickman in the hoola hoop , with a club with no hook face ) could hit a straight shot (at the target) from back of low point with a square plane line but only with Grip Rotation and a lofted club .... the loft , the steeper plane angle/lie angle of the shorter stick taking out enough of the OUT in its three dimensional clubhead orbit to prevent curve spin .. prevent tilting the axis of the backspin enough for curve . And yes that is a run on sentence. Flatter planes , less lofted clubs however would see a draw spin tendency as the ball moves back in the stance though, no? O.B.Left View Public Profile Send a private message to O.B.Left Find all posts by O.B.Left