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Old 12-31-2011, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Hey Bucket .

Im not familiar with your pattern but with my eye I see Arnie as a guy who:

-pivots hard. Hips are moving , turning hard and early.
-gets inside early with a shut face. What they used to call a "closed to open" player back in the day.
-Rotated Shoulders but with his Hands (the inclined plane) under his Right Shoulder, not a Turned Shoulder Plane then.
-Swingers Drag Loading , but with arched left hand. Which has implications to where the lag loads.....not a classic Rotated Presssure Point loading like Hogan at the knuckle. More like a guy who loves to load the Index Finger and loads it hard and early which can get you inside and closed during the backswing and arched at Top. But he's gonna use that lag loading along the Aft in Release with some all time , worlds best Thrusting.
-Downstroke, he's not "holding the umbrella" he's loading #2 angle although he's gonna fire #1 too principally . (1 and 2)
-Delayed Release ...really late which normally has implications complications to the Thruster if his left hand is turned to Plane and his #2 angle is loaded which would be at cross purposes. You'd be loaded for Sequenced and then trying to Overlap Release with your Right Elbow not being in the right place for the thrusting. Arnie though, as seen above in frame 6 and 7 even though he's very late , is arched and has his elbow and his #1pp (maybe even his 3 pp) aligned towards the ball. He's aligned to Thrust . The arch as a compensation for his Drag Loading maybe ? He's got the quarter turn undone in other words and his pressure points between his right elbow and the ball. Gonna make a side armed throw not so much an inline push type thrust but hard.

I can see how one could look at his pivot and late release and think he's using his pivot like a swinger .... uh, he is, for the most part. He's not a Drive Loader , 12-1 to my mind he's 4B Hitting. Pivot power , Drag Loading and then Thrusting with compensations to over ride the usual loading along the top of the shaft via the swingers start down.

Which at the expense of further cross pollination between your two threads around here may have some similarity to what Tiger's up to these days... although without the arch compensation. I dunno.

Thats what these eyes see but like I say I don't know your pattern . So please set me straight and BTW whats the purpose or advantage of the Right Shoulder being above the Hands? You wouldn't need to shift down I guess. Im here to learn.

All the best for 2012 everybody.

OB
You're correct 100% pattern is Angle of Approach Hitting Pattern....10-5-E .... steep plane dictating steep shoulders...right shoulder high and steep b/c of derived plane...no Swinging here... Eldrick is trying to get steep shoulders and swing...could be me mismatched components...pitch elbow don't work with this particular pattern...

to your question on hands/arms and right shoulder alignment at top....taking the hands above the right shoulder lends itself to swinging...arms have to fall in line with the shoulder so they can drive....if the shoulder is the backstop...why would you EVER want raise your hands above the launching pad? If you are loading the primary lever... why would you EVER want to raise the upper leg of the primary lever above the dual agent right shoulder?....if the right shoulder and chest is driving the arm down...why raise it up above the shoulder? If the hands are up there...the pivot has to wait...something has to move...if the axis tilts early you just turned the launching pad into a fly wheel....
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