[brianid]

Brian,

IMO, you can't release #3 before #2 and still comply with the plane. I think the first test of any golf swing discussion is whether it fits with the Imperatives.

Kevin

I meant more of what bucket pointed out, pa3 and pa2 simultaneously, though I don't think it's necessary to think about the pa2. As I said, I think efforts should be avoided that will "encourage" pa2 to release because IMO that will make you lose my pet pa3 angle beyond level.

Re plane, would what you said still apply if after transition you get down to elbow plane or, as pointed out by bucket in another thread, you get down to the plane you choose consistent with or appropriate with the pa3 angle you have?